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#Post#: 18990--------------------------------------------------
Speeding in 20 zone second offence in two years
DIR By: Donostio
Date: April 4, 2024, 4:31 am
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I got a ticket in July 2023 for doing 25mph in the 20 zone about
half a mile from my home on the A23 (I've lived here six years
and the 20mhp zone (it was introduction in the last couple of
years). I did the driver awareness course.
I just got another (a mile further down the road for travelling
at 25mph). I realised that (and I don't think this is any
defence) Google maps, which I used to drive everywhere, directed
that it was 30mph. It is odd that it's a 20mph because it's a
wide busy two lane road with no schools etc.
I need to reply to the NIP soon. Can I avoid points?
Thank you for any advice
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#Post#: 18993--------------------------------------------------
Re: Speeding in 20 zone second offence in two years
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: April 4, 2024, 4:53 am
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If the limit is lawfully in place, adequately signed and you
were driving in excess of the limit, no, you cannot avoid
points. The foregoing are all points you may wish to
investigate. As you say, Google Maps leading you astray is no
defence (see ‘adequately signed’).
#Post#: 18997--------------------------------------------------
Re: Speeding in 20 zone second offence in two years
DIR By: The Rookie
Date: April 4, 2024, 5:15 am
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--- Quote from: Donostio link ---
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> Google maps, which I used to drive everywhere
>
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If I did that I'd be walking within 6 months as it's far from
reliable.
Watch out for signs and only use Google as a backup!
#Post#: 19005--------------------------------------------------
Re: Speeding in 20 zone second offence in two years
DIR By: d612
Date: April 4, 2024, 6:25 am
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Use Waze sat nav app instead its much more uptodate (despite
google owning Waze)
Change the default setting in it to
1. Display speedometer
2. Display the speed limit at all times - rather than only when
you are exceeding it
3. Warn at the exact limit (rather than some mph above the
limit).
#Post#: 19007--------------------------------------------------
Re: Speeding in 20 zone second offence in two years
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: April 4, 2024, 6:35 am
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> Use Waze sat nav app instead its much more uptodate (despite
google owning Waze)
> Change the default setting in it to
> 1. Display speedometer
> 2. Display the speed limit at all times - rather than only
when you are exceeding it
> 3. Warn at the exact limit (rather than some mph above the
limit).
--- End Quote ---
And make sure you still look out of the window. The above is not
reliable, especially for variable and temporary speed limits
(and is not 100% reliable for fixed limits either).
#Post#: 19009--------------------------------------------------
Re: Speeding in 20 zone second offence in two years
DIR By: Donostio
Date: April 4, 2024, 6:38 am
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Thanks. I've used Waze off and on - it's better for forecasting
journey length by time of day. It may be time to make the
permanent leap. Indeed, with variable speed limits and changes
one can't rely on any of the sat' nav's
#Post#: 19226--------------------------------------------------
Re: Speeding in 20 zone second offence in two years
DIR By: Tiggerbits
Date: April 7, 2024, 10:17 am
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I really don't want to be that guy, but from the image you have
posted there clearly is a large 20mph sign on the road.
I understand that its very easy to become reliant upon Sat Navs
and such systems but they are no replacement for observational
skills.
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Re: Speeding in 20 zone second offence in two years
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: April 7, 2024, 10:40 am
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--- Quote from: Tiggerbits link ---
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> I really don't want to be that guy
>
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If you start your post like that, you’re 100% about to be ‘that
guy’. Don’t do it round here.
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