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#Post#: 18843--------------------------------------------------
National Parking Control - NTK
DIR By: jeezy
Date: April 2, 2024, 2:40 am
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The following was received at the Keeper address, is there a
time limit to when it should be received from date of alledged
incident?
Is the keeper required to inform of the driver?
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#Post#: 18844--------------------------------------------------
Re: National Parking Control - NTK
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: April 2, 2024, 3:00 am
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They claim that a Notice to Driver was affixed to the car
windscreen, was it? In those circumstances, if they want to hold
the keeper liable, as per Schedule 4 of the Protection of
Freedoms Act 2012, the relevant period is:
[indent]"the period of 28 days following the period of 28 days
beginning with the day after that on which the notice to driver
was given."[/indent]
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#Post#: 18851--------------------------------------------------
Re: National Parking Control - NTK
DIR By: b789
Date: April 2, 2024, 8:32 am
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Where is the evidence that they affixed an NtD to the
windscreen? If there is no evidence of an NtD and you do not
have it, then they are on thin ground for trying to hold the
keeper liable for the charge.
Normally, if they are photographing the car, it should be done
with the NtD in view. Have you checked their website to see if
there are other photos?
#Post#: 19113--------------------------------------------------
Re: National Parking Control - NTK
DIR By: jeezy
Date: April 5, 2024, 2:56 pm
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--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> Where is the evidence that they affixed an NtD to the
windscreen? If there is no evidence of an NtD and you do not
have it, then they are on thin ground for trying to hold the
keeper liable for the charge.
>
> Normally, if they are photographing the car, it should be done
with the NtD in view. Have you checked their website to see if
there are other photos?
>
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Hi i checked the site and there is one picture showing the NTD
on the windscreen
This is the image of the sign
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#Post#: 19160--------------------------------------------------
Re: National Parking Control - NTK
DIR By: Fluffykins
Date: April 6, 2024, 11:21 am
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The notice says very clearly that the Keeper will be held
liable. That's all. There's no mention of any liability on the
part of the keeper.
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Re: National Parking Control - NTK
DIR By: b789
Date: April 6, 2024, 11:48 am
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--- Quote from: Fluffykins link ---
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> The notice says very clearly that the Keeper will be held
liable. That's all. There's no mention of any liability on the
part of the keeper.
>
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I'm not sure what you mean by that. The driver is always liable.
However, the keeper can be held liable as long as the operator
strictly complies with the requirements of PoFA.
In this case, the PoFA requirements appear to have been followed
and so, the keeper can be held liable whether they were the
driver or not.
#Post#: 19342--------------------------------------------------
Re: National Parking Control - NTK
DIR By: jeezy
Date: April 8, 2024, 2:50 pm
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Would there be any grounds for appeal based on the signage and
information disclosed?
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Re: National Parking Control - NTK
DIR By: b789
Date: April 8, 2024, 3:12 pm
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Of course there would. Signage, landowner contract.
#Post#: 19508--------------------------------------------------
Re: National Parking Control - NTK
DIR By: jeezy
Date: April 11, 2024, 9:25 am
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--- Quote from: b789 link ---
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> Of course there would. Signage, landowner contract.
>
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Do you mean the signage posted is not clear?
#Post#: 19509--------------------------------------------------
Re: National Parking Control - NTK
DIR By: b789
Date: April 11, 2024, 9:29 am
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The signage has to be not only prominent but the information on
the signs has to be clear, unambiguous, legible and so on. If
you can, go back and take your own photos of the signs as they
would be visible from a car and where you parked. Preferably in
the same lighting conditions as they were on the day of the
alleged breach.
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