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#Post#: 18612--------------------------------------------------
The roles of the Chief Adjudicator, London Councils, who appoin
ts all the adjudicators. Complaints procedures.
By: Hippocrates Date: March 30, 2024, 5:19 pm
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I should really know all this, and do in part; but, it seems to
me that anomalies exist:
1. If one wishes to make a complaint about the conduct - not the
decision - of an adjudicator, the Chief Adjudicator deals with
it.
2. If one wants to complain about the conduct of the Chief
Adjudicator - not his decision - Mr Stephen Boon who works for
London Councils deals with it in the first instance; but, guess
what, another adjudicator deals with it. A man called Nick
Lester used to deal with such.
Food for thought as I am seriously considering the latter.
And I am going to request a meeting with the Justice Secretary
re the fiasco of the incompetence of the Tribunal for 18 years
vis a vis the bus lane fiasco when adjudicators refused appeals
without understanding the legislation! And, it has to be said,
they failed to note that many, if not all, VCA certificates
produced (if any) would have failed the test!
For Gawd's sake as it is Easter.
I must add that, the other day, I had to educate one adjudicator
about the law.
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At the beginning of each appeal hearing, the appellant is
informed that the adjudicator is independent. Or s/he should say
so.
#Post#: 18615--------------------------------------------------
Re: The roles of the Chief Adjudicator, London Councils, who ap
points all the adjudicators. Complaints procedures.
By: ivanleo Date: March 30, 2024, 6:20 pm
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[quote author=Hippocrates link=topic=1565.msg18612#msg18612
date=1711837184]
At the beginning of each appeal hearing, the appellant is
informed that the adjudicator is independent. Or s/he should say
so.
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I am very grateful to the 99% of adjudicators who don't insist
on giving me their standard blurb at the beginning of each
hearing, it would be a massive waste of time.
#Post#: 18809--------------------------------------------------
Re: The roles of the Chief Adjudicator, London Councils, who ap
points all the adjudicators. Complaints procedures.
By: mrmustard Date: April 1, 2024, 11:25 am
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I think you drew this to my attention Philip so that I can be
the voice of reason.
I nearly complained about an adjudicator once but held off doing
so and just kept on sucking up the refusals.
I sent one for Review, was asked how the decision went so wrong
and my response was that it was a statistical anomaly.
From then on, for a while, all of my Appeals were heard by Mr
Chan, although not often now he has the place to run so doesn't
have the time for many in person appeals.
I wonder what you might achieve by complaining, probably just
find yourself barred for being disruptive?
Remember that there is a tape of your hearing so if you didn't
stay as cool as a cucumber, it is easily shown.
Some advice: when I started my blog about Barnet Council and to
fight PCns I decided that no matter what I wasn't going to let
them get to me as one man against a monster is an unequal fight
and I didn't want to send myself bonkers.
Keep your pwder dry, reconcile yourself to losing sometimes and
smile.
The Justice Secretary might think the so-called experts aren't
that hot themselves, having failed to notice a wholesale
departure from the law for as long as the councils did.
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Re: The roles of the Chief Adjudicator, London Councils, who ap
points all the adjudicators. Complaints procedures.
By: Hippocrates Date: April 1, 2024, 3:04 pm
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"We are all human"! I am talking about conduct not decisions.
I will speak with you privately. I am holding fire at present.
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Re: The roles of the Chief Adjudicator, London Councils, who ap
points all the adjudicators. Complaints procedures.
By: Hippocrates Date: April 12, 2024, 5:57 am
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[member=7]mrmustard[/member]: I have thought matters through and
held back. I would just add though that conduct does affect
one's own ability to argue one's case. Like you, we have met at
least 25 in our time - you probably all of them. And each is
different. Anyway, The Three Musketeers live on. I guess I am
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#Post#: 19579--------------------------------------------------
Re: The roles of the Chief Adjudicator, London Councils, who ap
points all the adjudicators. Complaints procedures.
By: Hippocrates Date: April 12, 2024, 1:02 pm
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The transport and environment committee approve adjudicators
based on the recommendation of the chief adjudicator. This
includes reappointments.
Food for thought.
#Post#: 22620--------------------------------------------------
Re: The roles of the Chief Adjudicator, London Councils, who ap
points all the adjudicators. Complaints procedures.
By: Hippocrates Date: May 15, 2024, 2:41 pm
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So, this is the thing, as they say: if you want to complain
about an adjudicator's conduct, the Chief Adjudicator will deal
with it.
Are you sitting comfortably?
If you want to complain about the Chief Adjudicator's conduct,
another adjudicator will deal with it via Mr Stephen Boon who is
an officer at London Councils.
I used to be a teacher. I may as well have allowed the pupils to
mark their own peers' homework.
Do they allow Q into the hearings? If so, I can grab hold of
him at Vauxhall Station, sedate him and bring him along. ;D ;)
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Re: The roles of the Chief Adjudicator, London Councils, who ap
points all the adjudicators. Complaints procedures.
By: Hippocrates Date: May 15, 2024, 5:06 pm
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Missive sent to my MP and Mr Chan. I now wear body armour. :o
#Post#: 82926--------------------------------------------------
Re: The roles of the Chief Adjudicator, London Councils, who ap
points all the adjudicators. Complaints procedures.
By: Hippocrates Date: July 27, 2025, 6:07 am
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Should one/does one have the legal right to obtain a recording
of the hearing? Or to make an appointment to listen to it?
Clearly, a transcript is limited because it does not show how
things were said (voice intonation etc.) and the emotional
reactions between the participants? There is also the issue of
fairness as the Tribunal recording is available to whomsoever,
and without having to pay for a transcript.
#Post#: 86301--------------------------------------------------
Re: The roles of the Chief Adjudicator, London Councils, who ap
points all the adjudicators. Complaints procedures.
By: Hippocrates Date: August 19, 2025, 9:07 am
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Can somebody answer this simple question?:
Is the Chief Adjudicator a Judicial Office holder or not? ::)
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