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Contravention Code 16 - Redbridge
DIR By: Fightback
Date: March 29, 2024, 1:53 pm
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I received a PCN today for entering a permit zone. I was totally
unaware I had entered the permit zone. As there was no markings
on the road and I was unaware I had entered a permit zone I
parked my car there for 10 minutes.
Tracing the route that I took to get to Mansfield road, I note
that there is a sign there however I argue that is not
reasonable to have read the contents of the sign due to where it
is placed. You are turning in from a busy junction (double
decker busses and pedestrians). When driving past the sign it is
also blocked by the blue sign in front.
Further to where my car was parked on Mansfield road there is a
sign saying it is a permit area but please note when I got out
my car I walked towards Beal road and there is no sign(I also
wouldn’t have thought to look for any signs as I was unaware I
was in a permit area)
Location - Mansfield Road Ilford - (51.5614026, 0.0677791)
The sign when that you have entered the permit zone -
HTML https://postimg.cc/gallery/ryqv6W0
The PCN -
HTML https://postimg.cc/gallery/GByTS3f
Mansfield road sign saying it’s a permit area -
HTML https://postimg.cc/nM5n5WJ6
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Re: Contravention Code 16 - Redbridge
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 29, 2024, 4:14 pm
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So essentially, you're arguing about adequacy of signage.
However the council will argue it is totally adequate, so will
refuse your representations. All the regulations say is that the
council must erect sufficient and adequate signage to convey the
restriction to motorists. "Sufficient", and "adequate" are
subjective, so the only unbiased forum open to you is to take
them to London Tribunals, (the adjudicators) and argue your
case. The council will also argue theirs, and the ajudicator
will make a binding decision. To do this, you must risk the full
pCN penalty.
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Re: Contravention Code 16 - Redbridge
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 29, 2024, 8:01 pm
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[member=1432]Fightback[/member] please give us the PCN number
and the number plate, please see the guidance here
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/.
Also please post the PCN in full, and it's easier if you embed
the images into your post, the guide I've linked above tells you
how to do this.
We also need a link to the location where the zone sign is, and
if the sign itself is not on GSV then we need some wide angle
photos take from further back showing the visibility of the sign
from the main road.
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