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#Post#: 17725--------------------------------------------------
Manchester City Council - 34 Bus Lane - Oxford Street (Whitworth
Street West To Chepstow Street)
DIR By: YBJnoMore
Date: March 19, 2024, 1:54 pm
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Hi all, sorry for the late post of my PCN the 21 days discount
ends on the 25th March I think it is. I was going to surrender
and pay this without challenge but I thought I would double
check before hand as I could not easily see the signs with the
building works and a bus ahead of me.
I did have a read on previous cases specifically this one that
states the difficult in seeing the signing due to clutter and
traffic and the amount of Pcns issued on this specific road. But
as this has been superseded I resigned myself to paying but
thought I would check before hand if these points do not stand
anymore?
Emanuel Watkins and others v Manchester City Council
(MC01044-1808, 29 January 2019)
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Thanks All :)
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#Post#: 17752--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council - 34 Bus Lane - Oxford Street
(Whitworth Street West To Chepstow Street)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 19, 2024, 5:22 pm
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The TPT case you cite was 2019, bases on PCNs issued in 2017 and
2018 and it is likely Manchester City Council made subsequent
changes to the signage that is quite heavily criticised by the
adjudicator. If you can please tell us your route, it would help
greatly. However, assuming you approached the restriction
driving on Oxford Street, there are two advance warning signs
for the restriction.
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and here
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So, if this was your approach, in my opinion, you would have a
hard time convincing an adjudicator the signage is inadequate.
HOwever, see what the others say, but don't miss the deadline
for payment or submitting representations
#Post#: 17938--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council - 34 Bus Lane - Oxford Street
(Whitworth Street West To Chepstow Street)
DIR By: YBJnoMore
Date: March 21, 2024, 8:31 am
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Yeah I can see they have adapted the advance signs (I didn't see
them on the day however.. a bus in front blocks so much of your
view its a pain).. I will just have to accept this one and blame
it low brain function from giving blood and having to change
route home due to traffic haha!
#Post#: 18147--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council - 34 Bus Lane - Oxford Street
(Whitworth Street West To Chepstow Street)
DIR By: YBJnoMore
Date: March 23, 2024, 7:35 am
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Hi people have I made an error I have just gone to pay my PCN
and the charge has risen to 60 Did I work mess up my numbers for
the date of service? I thought it began the after the 2nd day of
posting.
It was sent on 28th of Feb. Anything I can do?
#Post#: 18154--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council - 34 Bus Lane - Oxford Street
(Whitworth Street West To Chepstow Street)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 23, 2024, 10:02 am
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28th Feb was Wednesday, so assumed Date of Service is Friday 1st
March, (29 days in February as this is a Leap Year). Therefore
21 day period ends at midnight on Friday 22nd. SO you would
appear to be out-of-time.
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Re: Manchester City Council - 34 Bus Lane - Oxford Street
(Whitworth Street West To Chepstow Street)
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 31, 2024, 2:00 pm
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[member=712]YBJnoMore[/member] I see you made a representation
so please show us what you sent.
Obviously if they don't reoffer the discount, you have nothing
to lose in appealing to the tribunal.
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