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Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 31, 2024, 6:13 pm
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[member=1373]John001[/member] also please give us a link to the
exact spot on google street view, I want to get hold of the
traffic order (if I don't have a copy already) but that's a bit
difficult if I don't know where this is. It takes 20 working
days to get hold of it so the sooner I can request it the
better.
#Post#: 18749--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: John001
Date: April 1, 2024, 3:20 am
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location : North Road, Bromley
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/tCGSxZLmCR4oq4Tz5
I will post again when I receive the NTO
#Post#: 18750--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: Neil B
Date: April 1, 2024, 3:38 am
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--- Quote from: John001 link ---
>
> From reading other threads, it seems that the only way of
getting a n appeal accepted is by pointing out a technical error
- is this true?
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No, it's not true.
You've described a legitimate exemption and ultimately your word
in front of an adjudicator should, ime. win. As long as you
don't say anything daft.
What the council have told you so far is rubbish; there are
various circumstances in which you are allowed to stop.
If they repeat that statement at the next stage then you will
also have a 'failure to consider', a winning point on its own.
But we do need you to cooperate. Do read the link I gave you on
how to post images; your current attachments are difficult to
read and lack the elements I've explained we need.
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Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: April 1, 2024, 3:52 am
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> I heard nothing until last week, March 14, nearly 3 months
later, I received a letter of rejection.
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As well as the loading exemption, I think this fact really does
need to be on your reps against the Notice to Owner, and
certainly at London Tribunals if you get that far. Three months
to reply to informal reps is really quite disgraceful in my
opinion.
#Post#: 18769--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: April 1, 2024, 6:59 am
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Traffic order is on its way.
#Post#: 19877--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: John001
Date: April 18, 2024, 2:46 am
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Hi,
I have now received the NTO, 3 pages attached.
I have written the formal appeal as follows -
This is my formal challenge to your PCN.
As I said in my previous appeal, I was unloading the car after
shopping.
Your reply " stopping for a short period of time, even just a
few minutes to park outside of your home, is not permitted" is
incorrect.
You have failed to consider the points I made, and nor did I
stop to park.
My partner, who is the owner of the car was with me and at the
time she had difficulty walking as she was awaiting knee surgery
(she had this on Feb 15th). She was also recovering from a
gallbladder op which she had 2 weeks previously, so no way was I
going to search for a parking bay to unload the shopping and
make her walk up to 60 yards.
Also the fact that you waited nearly 3 months to reply to my
informal appeal is out of order.
I have since revisited your informal appeal process and there
are now options to select a reason to challenge the PCN by
stating
I was loading/unloading at the time
I was picking up/dropping off a passenger
These options weren't listed when I sent my informal appeal.
Yours sincerely.
Any replies on whether this appeal would work?
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Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: John001
Date: April 18, 2024, 6:34 am
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By the way, I haven't sent the appeal yet. I am awaiting any
feedback from you.
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Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: John001
Date: April 21, 2024, 10:30 am
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Anyone with any advice for formal challenge ?
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Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: April 21, 2024, 3:02 pm
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Your reps look OK to me. What they will probably do is reject
them and re-offer the discount. They do this because they know
that almost all people then just cough-up. Of course, if they
reject and don't re-offer the discount, it is then a total
no-brainer to take them to London Tribunals, as the penalty does
not increase and there are no additional costs. As unloading is
a lawful exemption to yellow lines, you would be justified in
asking for costs, because denying a legal exemption is wholly
unreasonable.
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Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: John001
Date: April 21, 2024, 4:26 pm
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Thanks for the advice.
I will submit my formal challenge and report back with their
reply.
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