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#Post#: 17710--------------------------------------------------
Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: John001
Date: March 19, 2024, 11:10 am
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There is a yellow line on the road outside my house with parking
restrictions.
On December 14th, I returned home from shopping and took some
bags into the house.
I went back outside to move the car, literally 3 minutes later
and a warden had already put a ticket on my windscreen.
He was walking and could have even seen me get out of the car
with my shopping because he had walked 60 yards to my car.
The ticket said the car was seen at 12.38 and was issued at
12.38.
I appealed against this PCN the next day as I believe he should
have waited at least a few minutes before issuing a ticket.
I heard nothing until last week, March 14, nearly 3 months
later, I received a letter of rejection.
I no longer have the ticket as I thought there was a time limit
for them to reply to my appeal.
They have told me if I want to make a formal appeal I will have
to wait for a Notice to Owner (NtO).
Are they allowed to issue a ticket without waiting even a
minute?
#Post#: 17729--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: March 19, 2024, 2:40 pm
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Yes. Please post up copies of the pcn, your challenge and the
rejection. Cover up only your name and address. We will look for
technical error
#Post#: 17754--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 19, 2024, 5:27 pm
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--- Quote ---
> I thought there was a time limit for them to reply to my
appeal.
--- End Quote ---
There is a limit but not at the PCN informal representations
stage, which is where you were when submitting representations.
There is an exemption for loading-unloading, so if it were me,
I'd wait for the Notice to Owner and submit reps on this basis.
#Post#: 18599--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 30, 2024, 4:34 pm
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[member=1373]John001[/member] so where's the PCN please?
#Post#: 18621--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: John001
Date: March 30, 2024, 6:45 pm
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I no longer have the PCN. I threw it away after I had no
response after 2 months as I thought that there was a time limit
of 56 days for them to reply.
I have appealed against PCN's from the council before and have
only ever had a reply if the appeal has been rejected (within a
few weeks), but they don't reply if it is not rejected.
I am going to wait for them to send the NTO and I will make a
formal appeal.
The rejection letter stated that "you said you only stopped for
a short time, but this is not allowed".
They ignored my main point that the time of contravention and
the time of issue was exactly the same.
#Post#: 18660--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: John001
Date: March 31, 2024, 10:10 am
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Sorry, it was the time of contravention and the time seen was
exactly the same.
From the images shown, there was less than a minute from the
first picture taken and the pcn attached to the car.
From reading other threads, it seems that the only way of
getting a n appeal accepted is by pointing out a technical error
- is this true?
#Post#: 18661--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: John001
Date: March 31, 2024, 10:16 am
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I have attached the front and back page of their rejection
letter to my informal appeal.
[attachment deleted by admin]
#Post#: 18663--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: Neil B
Date: March 31, 2024, 10:59 am
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--- Quote from: John001 link ---
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> I have attached the front and back page of their rejection
letter to my informal appeal.
>
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Is that all of it? Have you chopped some parts off?
#Post#: 18691--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: John001
Date: March 31, 2024, 2:42 pm
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only the name and address and the penalty chaarge number and
location. There is no traffic code.
#Post#: 18694--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley Council - parked on yellow line
DIR By: Neil B
Date: March 31, 2024, 2:54 pm
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You only need to remove name and address.
We need everything else.
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