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       #Post#: 18325--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PePiPoo site down?? 
   DIR By: The Slithy Tove
       Date: March 26, 2024, 2:02 am
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       Pepipoo seems to have fallen over ... again. Does not bode well.
       #Post#: 18340--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PePiPoo site down?? 
   DIR By: ManxTom
       Date: March 26, 2024, 6:39 am
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       Yeah - it's down again...
       As I've said before, one of the most important features of an
       advice site like Pepipoo (or this one) is that it should be
       reliable and be there when it's needed
       #Post#: 18349--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PePiPoo site down?? 
   DIR By: guest46
       Date: March 26, 2024, 7:54 am
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       I'm still puzzled why - if as claimed so many regulars have
       actually moved here - the speed section is vacant in comparison?
       #Post#: 18362--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PePiPoo site down?? 
   DIR By: ManxTom
       Date: March 26, 2024, 10:01 am
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       --- Quote from: M60NJP link ---
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       > I'm still puzzled why - if as claimed so many regulars have
       actually moved here - the speed section is vacant in comparison?
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       Is it search results?
       I presume most people looking for advice re a NIP wouldn't know
       about either Pepipoo or FTLA, so is pepipoo just a more popular
       search result?
       Also I'm not sure users on other forums are aware of FTLA?  I
       post on MSE and Legal Beagles and usually you only see
       suggestions to go to pepipoo not ftla.
       #Post#: 18373--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PePiPoo site down?? 
   DIR By: Chijiki
       Date: March 26, 2024, 11:19 am
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       Pepipoo is up and running again.
       We should open a book on how long it'll remain so.
       #Post#: 18391--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PePiPoo site down?? 
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: March 26, 2024, 5:37 pm
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       --- Quote from: ManxTom link ---
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       > Also I'm not sure users on other forums are aware of FTLA?  I
       post on MSE and Legal Beagles and usually you only see
       suggestions to go to pepipoo not ftla.
       >
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       I hope you're directing people here then?
       #Post#: 18393--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PePiPoo site down?? 
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: March 26, 2024, 5:39 pm
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       --- Quote from: guest46 link ---
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       > I'm still puzzled why - if as claimed so many regulars have
       actually moved here - the speed section is vacant in comparison?
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       Because many of us made a concerted effort to redirect OPs from
       the council forum on pepipoo to ftla, while no such attempt was
       made in the speeding section.
       #Post#: 18398--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PePiPoo site down?? 
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: March 26, 2024, 5:58 pm
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       The question is not why is the speeding section so quiet, it is
       why is the council section so busy. IMHO largely due to the
       presence of a facebook group for council tickets, and also due
       to the fact that council tickets are far more likely to be worth
       challenging if you have access to people that know what they're
       doing.
       Speeding seems to largely about explaining to posters how to
       read the sticky that tells them how to perform a statutory
       declaration and do a plea bargain to get the s. 172 dropped.
       #Post#: 18401--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PePiPoo site down?? 
   DIR By: ManxTom
       Date: March 26, 2024, 6:06 pm
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       --- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
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       > [quote author=ManxTom link=topic=1479.msg18362#msg18362
       date=1711465280]
       > Also I'm not sure users on other forums are aware of FTLA?  I
       post on MSE and Legal Beagles and usually you only see
       suggestions to go to pepipoo not ftla.
       >
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       I hope you're directing people here then?
       [/quote]
       I try to direct people to both, but some referrers only know
       about Pepipoo and not FTLA.
       While it's obviously ok for people to choose whether they want
       to post on both sites or just one, I think there's a danger of
       confusion and distraction so long as Pepipoo continues and some
       users seem to have decided to stay there and not venture here.
       It just dilutes the knowledge base and experience to draw on.
       #Post#: 18424--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PePiPoo site down?? 
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: March 27, 2024, 5:55 am
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       --- Quote from: andy_foster link ---
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       > and also due to the fact that council tickets are far more
       likely to be worth challenging if you have access to people that
       know what they're doing.
       >
       > Speeding seems to largely about explaining to posters how to
       read the sticky that tells them how to perform a statutory
       declaration and do a plea bargain to get the s. 172 dropped.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This. I think we've not seen more than one or two cases a year
       where a speeding case was actually worth challenging, just as
       that case where the 30 mph signs were blanked out and the police
       agreed to drop it.
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