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#Post#: 808--------------------------------------------------
Islington, 53J (restriction on vehicles entering pedestrian
zone), Sussex Way
DIR By: Tasou
Date: July 3, 2023, 6:05 pm
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I would appreciate some advice on how to appeal my 53J (faling
to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian
zone) council ticket.
I entered my car on a street (Sussex Way, N7 6RB) that had a
daily restriction between 15:00 and 16:00, turning the road to a
pedestrian road due to the school on it. The first picture of my
car entering the street (you can clearly see the car half way
through turning) was taken at 15:59:55. Only 5 seconds before
the restriction gets lifted. The rest of the pictures on the
ticket I was sent (with the car driving down the road) are after
16:00:00.
Can I appeal? What exactly can I use as my defense?
Here is a link of the street:
HTML https://goo.gl/maps/bH7Xx3TKMoNLGzeF8
Thank you all in advance for reading this!!
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#Post#: 810--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington, 53J (restriction on vehicles entering pedestrian
zone), Sussex Way
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 3, 2023, 7:22 pm
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Very obviously the usual absurd money-grubbing PCN we see far
too often, as the traffic management benefits of whalloping you
for less than one minute are nil.
You should therefore submit representations on the basis that
your car clock showed a time of just after 16.00, so you entered
the street. This contravention is what legal people call "de
minimis", too trivial to be bothered with, but with councils
keeping the money from PCN payments, they just cary on.
There is an adjudication somewhere in London Tribunals where the
council were shot down in flames on issuing PCNs right at the
end of a restriction period. There may also be guidance on this
from London Councils, but others more "London" experienced will
be able to point you in the right direction.
#Post#: 811--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington, 53J (restriction on vehicles entering pedestrian
zone), Sussex Way
DIR By: guest17
Date: July 4, 2023, 2:05 am
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OP---read this post:-
HTML http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showto...t&p=1742871
These are the successful "clock" cases:-
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T5tOZQ19JA...-Gys8rMHCj/view
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uR5X6wTu0q...IHWta81xmL/view
Mike
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Re: Islington, 53J (restriction on vehicles entering pedestrian
zone), Sussex Way
DIR By: Tasou
Date: July 4, 2023, 8:25 am
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I cannot open these files. I get a message that the files don't
exist. Could you check please? Here is my email if that helps:
tasoupalisid@gmail.com
Thank you so much for responding!
#Post#: 853--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington, 53J (restriction on vehicles entering pedestrian
zone), Sussex Way
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 4, 2023, 11:21 am
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Mike there's a reason I use bit.ly, the links don't break when
you copy / paste them:
HTML http://bit.ly/2W1ni9T
HTML https://bit.ly/3qZ4ycj
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Re: Islington, 53J (restriction on vehicles entering pedestrian
zone), Sussex Way
DIR By: guest17
Date: July 4, 2023, 11:45 am
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My apologies, they read OK on the Pepipoo site I just
thoughtlessly copied them over.
Mike
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Re: Islington, 53J (restriction on vehicles entering pedestrian
zone), Sussex Way
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 4, 2023, 12:05 pm
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--- Quote from: MMV Redux link ---
>
> My apologies, they read OK on the Pepipoo site I just
thoughtlessly copied them over.
>
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No problem, if you copy them from one pepipoo thread to another
they also break, as long URLs get shortened by all forum
software.
Anyway, here's some draft reps that Tasou can send:
[indent]
Dear London Borough of Islington,
The video footage shows that the council's clock purports to
detect my vehicle entering the street at 3:59:55 pm, only 5
seconds prior to the end of the restriction. Even if the
camera's clock is synchronized with the atomic clock to ensure
100% accuracy, this is plainly a de-minimis contravention and
common sense would dictate that the penalty should be cancelled.
Yours faithfully,
[/indent]
Don't worry if they reject, just post the rejection letter on
here and we'll advise on the next steps.
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