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Dartford crossing charge- Bailiffs threatened
DIR By: Dolphin0fm6
Date: March 5, 2024, 7:19 am
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I recently received a text from a No Reply number, saying that I
hadn't paid a debt to Bristow and Sutor of £615, and that I
should expect a visit from bailiffs and there is a warrant on my
vehicle which will be located and seized, but no other details.
When I finally got hold of Bristow and Sutor today, it appears
that I didn't pay for my dartford crossing back in May last year
(a complete oversight). I never received a PCN or any other
comms. However, looking back on my phone, I had received a text
in December and January from a No Reply number that I assumed
were scams, so didn't respond as it did not say who they were
from. The advisor today said this text only contact was because
I didn't change the address on my V5 when I moved house last
March. They had to use a tracing agent to find me, and all they
could get was my mobile number. She said they had apparently
used the DVLA to find me, who have my up to date driving licence
and tax details with the correct address and email/phone etc
(the V5 was an oversight of mine), but they weirdly could only
use my mobile number to contact me. She said that apparently
this case has already been to court without my knowledge. I now
have a debt of £615!!!! For an original £5 charge. I am beside
myself as I do not have this kind of money, and I am looking for
some advice to try and figure out what to do. has anybody had
any kind of success in appealing this charge? I am more than
happy to pay the original late payment fine as this was
obviously my oversight, but £615, seems totally
disproportionate. Obviously I do not have any PCN or paperwork
to attach, as I have never received any.Thank you.
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Re: Dartford crossing charge- Bailiffs threatened
DIR By: dan-75
Date: March 5, 2024, 7:49 am
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Pretty sure you can file a Statutory Declaration to state your
case, which will reverse the situation back. Similar happened to
me but it was a long time ago and the case only ever got to
Charge Certificate stage.
I would make sure the vehicle in question is in a locked garage
for now, as they can clamp it forcing you to pay up. Sure
someone will be along soon who will be much more help than me.
Good luck with these cretins.
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Re: Dartford crossing charge- Bailiffs threatened
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 5, 2024, 8:53 am
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Failure to update V5 and then getting a PCN, is a common thing
with bailiff cases we get on here, and it is very difficult to
revert the matter back to the original PCN. It is your duty as a
vehicle owner to keep the address on the V5 up-to-date.
The only avenue open to you now is to submit an Out-of-Time
Witness Statement. You will need to complete TEC forms TE7 and
TE9. Do be aware that by being OOT, your submission will be
passed to DART who can object to it, and will probably do so.
HTML https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/traffic-enforcement-centre-forms
You can also request advice from
www.bailiffadviceonline.co.uk
Not also that paying the bailiffs has no link to whether your
OOT WS will be accepted or not.
Is your V5 now up-to-date ? Frankly, if DART object, I can't see
things turning out favourably.
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Re: Dartford crossing charge- Bailiffs threatened
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: March 5, 2024, 9:35 am
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The enforcement authority have a warrant of control based upon
you not responding to numerous formal and informal notices and
correspondence.
They do not have you address, therefore neither do DVLA, ...and
worryingly neither would any other authority which relies upon
DVLA data. You could have a shed load of claims in various
stages of enforcement just waiting for this trigger.
But you know your driving habits(and those of any other drivers)
and if the risk of there being a host of other potential claims
is low then update your V5C address, you can do it online. But
deal with the following first.
As regards the previous post but one, an SD at the Charge Cert
stage is a different beast completely. IMO, the only thing which
could reduce your debt is if you moved round about the date of
the contravention. For this to work you need to be precise:
You moved on **** and took up residency at your new address on
****;
You did/did not put in place mail forwarding with the Royal Mail
for *** months;
The contravention occurred on ****.
So far we have: March; unknown; May.
You know the first two and you could get the last date from B&S
or the authority's website if B&S have the PCN number.
For background, most of the debt is enforcement agent's fees.
Is your car now the same as at the contravention? If so, you
need to be careful.
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