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50r - Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Lambeth
DIR By: privates
Date: March 4, 2024, 7:36 pm
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Hi,
Any grounds of appeal for the following appeal? :'( :-[
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Thank You..
#Post#: 17340--------------------------------------------------
Re: 50r - Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Lambeth
DIR By: privates
Date: March 16, 2024, 4:26 am
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Hi guys,
This is the GSV -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/iXJsPHWPFtvox6tV8
Is there any errors in the PCN before I pay this PCN?
Thanks
#Post#: 17342--------------------------------------------------
Re: 50r - Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Lambeth
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 16, 2024, 4:41 am
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Need to see the back of the PCN before we can say the PCN is OK
or not.
I'm surprised you didn't get any response, but just putting up a
load of photos without any narrative is never a good idea. The
sign is clear enough, in my view, so did you just chance your
arm and hope there wasn't a camera ?
#Post#: 17345--------------------------------------------------
Re: 50r - Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Lambeth
DIR By: privates
Date: March 16, 2024, 5:52 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> Need to see the back of the PCN before we can say the PCN is
OK or not.
>
> I'm surprised you didn't get any response, but just putting up
a load of photos without any narrative is never a good idea. The
sign is clear enough, in my view, so did you just chance your
arm and hope there wasn't a camera ?
>
--- End Quote ---
To be fair I wish I knew myself..
Here is the back of the PCN alongside the representation page
that came with it
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HTML https://ibb.co/W0kbNNt
HTML https://ibb.co/RjVS3b5
#Post#: 17350--------------------------------------------------
Re: 50r - Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Lambeth
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 16, 2024, 7:57 am
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To be honest, I can't see anything wrong with the PCN, and the
sign is clear albeit on the off-side of the direction of travel,
but seems clear enough, although being on the off-side, it could
be obscured by high-sided vehicles, but the photos show no
traffic like this.
Discount looks the best option IMHO. You could have a punt at
London Tribunals on the description of the statutory grounds of
"driven without your consent" that implies it's restricted to
the car being stolen, because there's no restriction like this
in the regulations, but the full PCN penalty would be in play.
#Post#: 17351--------------------------------------------------
Re: 50r - Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Lambeth
DIR By: privates
Date: March 16, 2024, 8:23 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> To be honest, I can't see anything wrong with the PCN, and the
sign is clear albeit on the off-side of the direction of travel,
but seems clear enough, although being on the off-side, it could
be obscured by high-sided vehicles, but the photos show no
traffic like this.
>
> Discount looks the best option IMHO. You could have a punt at
London Tribunals on the description of the statutory grounds of
"driven without your consent" that implies it's restricted to
the car being stolen, because there's no restriction like this
in the regulations, but the full PCN penalty would be in play.
>
--- End Quote ---
Appreciated. I'll pay the PCN unless the tribunals stands a fair
chance ::)
#Post#: 17353--------------------------------------------------
Re: 50r - Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Lambeth
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: March 16, 2024, 9:59 am
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The TWOC ground is ok because they state e.g. or such as.
#Post#: 17897--------------------------------------------------
Re: 50r - Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Lambeth
DIR By: privates
Date: March 21, 2024, 3:44 am
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
>
> The TWOC ground is ok because they state e.g. or such as.
>
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Which means, sorry?
#Post#: 17922--------------------------------------------------
Re: 50r - Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Lambeth
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: March 21, 2024, 6:30 am
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You can't use it.
#Post#: 18641--------------------------------------------------
Re: 50r - Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Lambeth
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 31, 2024, 6:17 am
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[member=61]privates[/member] you've missed the discount and the
representations deadline and the council website says a charge
certificate will be issued on 7 April, looks like you've fallen
asleep at the wheel with this one?
Please go onto the council website right now and make a
representation, just say "the contravention did not occur" and
keep a screenshot of the confirmation page. It doesn't matter
that they'll reject, the key here is to get a notice of
rejection at £130 which you could then appeal, rather than a
charge certificate at £195 which you can't appeal.
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