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       #Post#: 16511--------------------------------------------------
       Speeding and failure to notify
   DIR By: Rabrab31
       Date: February 29, 2024, 8:00 am
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       Speeding and failure to notify who driver was.
       I am in England.
       In Sept I was caught speeding, was sent the letter  but I only
       got this letter in Jan as it was sent to the wrong address
       (neighbour had been holding on to it and just forgot to give it
       to me).
       I emailed the ticket office as 28 days had passed and they
       opened up the online portal so I could pay the £100. So I paid
       the fine, and sent my license details off but forgot to send the
       driver nomination form.
       I have been sent a single justice procedural notice today to
       charge me for speeding and for failing to name a driver.
       I don't know what to do, I have paid this fine on 9th Feb and
       accepted the points so I don't want to plead guilty to the
       speeding as I have already acknowledged it.
       In terms of the nomination letter it was an honest mistake, the
       last few months have been really stressful after being a victim
       of a crime myself (arson, my car was set fire to at work
       followed by a malicious email - they never found who did it). I
       took over a month off work and found a new job because I felt
       like I couldn't work there any more. Started new job mid Jan.
       Does anyone have any advice for me as I don't want a 1k fine and
       6 points for what was an honest mistake.
       Thank you
       #Post#: 16513--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding and failure to notify
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: February 29, 2024, 8:18 am
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       How was the notice "sent to the wrong address"?
       Was this Avon & Somerset? Other than A&S' "Super NIP", you
       generally don't get offered a COFP until after you have
       confirmed that you were the driver.
       Have the points been added to your licence?
       #Post#: 16514--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding and failure to notify
   DIR By: Rabrab31
       Date: February 29, 2024, 8:19 am
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       Postie must have dropped it in next door, the address was
       correct on the letter.
       No it's West Mercia police.
       The point have not been added yet.
       #Post#: 16522--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding and failure to notify
   DIR By: guest46
       Date: February 29, 2024, 9:04 am
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       What was 'the letter'? Do you have it now?
       #Post#: 16523--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding and failure to notify
   DIR By: Rabrab31
       Date: February 29, 2024, 9:09 am
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       I have the letter with the charges and the reply form . Options
       are guilty do not attend court. Guilty attend court or not
       guilty and go to trial. I don't have the letter of the speeding
       offence anymore because you have to send off various parts of it
       with driving license details etc.
       #Post#: 16571--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding and failure to notify
   DIR By: guest46
       Date: March 1, 2024, 1:01 am
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       --- Quote from: Rabrab31 link ---
       >
       > I have the letter with the charges and the reply form .
       Options are guilty do not attend court. Guilty attend court or
       not guilty and go to trial. I don't have the letter of the
       speeding offence anymore because you have to send off various
       parts of it with driving license details etc.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I suspect you have misread/misinterpreted the 'letter of
       speeding offence'which most probably asked only for the
       nomination of the driver at the time and nothing else. Correct
       completion of that would have generated a second letter with the
       options, addressed to said driver.
       Other more knowledgeable will add, but I think you'd be best
       going NG and attend court,explain the situation and ask for the
       original fine to be reinstated (plus costs) due to
       administrative difficulties.
       #Post#: 16573--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding and failure to notify
   DIR By: Rabrab31
       Date: March 1, 2024, 1:18 am
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       The original letter had a few sections. Section 1 nomination of
       driver then it had your options- pay fine or go to court. Next
       section was details for payment which I have done. This was all
       on the same letter. It was paid via an online portal
       #Post#: 16576--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding and failure to notify
   DIR By: guest46
       Date: March 1, 2024, 1:42 am
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       Then the advice stands - plead NG, go to the hearing and defend
       the case.
       As you have your e-mail which enabled the opening of the case,
       their reply and a receipt for payment, you've got a decent
       defence although not having the original letter is not great
       (but possibly not fatal). Stand by and see what others think.
       #Post#: 17565--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding and failure to notify
   DIR By: mdann52
       Date: March 18, 2024, 8:18 am
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       --- Quote from: M60NJP link ---
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       > Then the advice stands - plead NG, go to the hearing and
       defend the case.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Even though they have not complied with the offer by their own
       admission, by failing to provide the required details with the
       CoFP to allow licence endorsing?
       OP - I think your best off pleading guilty here if you did not
       send off drivers details as prescribed when paying the CoFP.
       This will get you 33% off.
       I'm not convinced competing one section of a "Super NIP" gets
       you off the hook if it says to send licence details elsewhere
       for endorsement.
       #Post#: 17576--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding and failure to notify
   DIR By: The Rookie
       Date: March 18, 2024, 9:44 am
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       --- Quote from: mdann52 link ---
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       > OP - I think your best off pleading guilty here
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If you don't know what you're on about, better not to post,
       there is a tried and reliable way to minimise the harm here and
       it's not by pleading guilty.
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