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Speeding and failure to notify
DIR By: Rabrab31
Date: February 29, 2024, 8:00 am
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Speeding and failure to notify who driver was.
I am in England.
In Sept I was caught speeding, was sent the letter but I only
got this letter in Jan as it was sent to the wrong address
(neighbour had been holding on to it and just forgot to give it
to me).
I emailed the ticket office as 28 days had passed and they
opened up the online portal so I could pay the £100. So I paid
the fine, and sent my license details off but forgot to send the
driver nomination form.
I have been sent a single justice procedural notice today to
charge me for speeding and for failing to name a driver.
I don't know what to do, I have paid this fine on 9th Feb and
accepted the points so I don't want to plead guilty to the
speeding as I have already acknowledged it.
In terms of the nomination letter it was an honest mistake, the
last few months have been really stressful after being a victim
of a crime myself (arson, my car was set fire to at work
followed by a malicious email - they never found who did it). I
took over a month off work and found a new job because I felt
like I couldn't work there any more. Started new job mid Jan.
Does anyone have any advice for me as I don't want a 1k fine and
6 points for what was an honest mistake.
Thank you
#Post#: 16513--------------------------------------------------
Re: Speeding and failure to notify
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: February 29, 2024, 8:18 am
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How was the notice "sent to the wrong address"?
Was this Avon & Somerset? Other than A&S' "Super NIP", you
generally don't get offered a COFP until after you have
confirmed that you were the driver.
Have the points been added to your licence?
#Post#: 16514--------------------------------------------------
Re: Speeding and failure to notify
DIR By: Rabrab31
Date: February 29, 2024, 8:19 am
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Postie must have dropped it in next door, the address was
correct on the letter.
No it's West Mercia police.
The point have not been added yet.
#Post#: 16522--------------------------------------------------
Re: Speeding and failure to notify
DIR By: guest46
Date: February 29, 2024, 9:04 am
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What was 'the letter'? Do you have it now?
#Post#: 16523--------------------------------------------------
Re: Speeding and failure to notify
DIR By: Rabrab31
Date: February 29, 2024, 9:09 am
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I have the letter with the charges and the reply form . Options
are guilty do not attend court. Guilty attend court or not
guilty and go to trial. I don't have the letter of the speeding
offence anymore because you have to send off various parts of it
with driving license details etc.
#Post#: 16571--------------------------------------------------
Re: Speeding and failure to notify
DIR By: guest46
Date: March 1, 2024, 1:01 am
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--- Quote from: Rabrab31 link ---
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> I have the letter with the charges and the reply form .
Options are guilty do not attend court. Guilty attend court or
not guilty and go to trial. I don't have the letter of the
speeding offence anymore because you have to send off various
parts of it with driving license details etc.
>
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I suspect you have misread/misinterpreted the 'letter of
speeding offence'which most probably asked only for the
nomination of the driver at the time and nothing else. Correct
completion of that would have generated a second letter with the
options, addressed to said driver.
Other more knowledgeable will add, but I think you'd be best
going NG and attend court,explain the situation and ask for the
original fine to be reinstated (plus costs) due to
administrative difficulties.
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Re: Speeding and failure to notify
DIR By: Rabrab31
Date: March 1, 2024, 1:18 am
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The original letter had a few sections. Section 1 nomination of
driver then it had your options- pay fine or go to court. Next
section was details for payment which I have done. This was all
on the same letter. It was paid via an online portal
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Re: Speeding and failure to notify
DIR By: guest46
Date: March 1, 2024, 1:42 am
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Then the advice stands - plead NG, go to the hearing and defend
the case.
As you have your e-mail which enabled the opening of the case,
their reply and a receipt for payment, you've got a decent
defence although not having the original letter is not great
(but possibly not fatal). Stand by and see what others think.
#Post#: 17565--------------------------------------------------
Re: Speeding and failure to notify
DIR By: mdann52
Date: March 18, 2024, 8:18 am
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--- Quote from: M60NJP link ---
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> Then the advice stands - plead NG, go to the hearing and
defend the case.
>
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Even though they have not complied with the offer by their own
admission, by failing to provide the required details with the
CoFP to allow licence endorsing?
OP - I think your best off pleading guilty here if you did not
send off drivers details as prescribed when paying the CoFP.
This will get you 33% off.
I'm not convinced competing one section of a "Super NIP" gets
you off the hook if it says to send licence details elsewhere
for endorsement.
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Re: Speeding and failure to notify
DIR By: The Rookie
Date: March 18, 2024, 9:44 am
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--- Quote from: mdann52 link ---
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> OP - I think your best off pleading guilty here
>
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If you don't know what you're on about, better not to post,
there is a tried and reliable way to minimise the harm here and
it's not by pleading guilty.
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