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#Post#: 14848--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 2, 2024, 7:06 am
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Dear Sirs
This matter has had a chequered history, to say the least. You
issued a Penalty Charge Notice code 34j to the appellant when,
at the time, you did not even possess a valid certificate from
the VCA to satisfy the criterion of admissibility of evidence
provided at para. 7(2) of Schedule 1 to the London Local
Authorities Act 1996 (as amended). Furthermore, the camera at
the location does not have a certificate either.
I note that you issued a Charge Certificate but have not
followed this up with an Order for Recovery. The appellant made
formal representations against the Enforcement Notice but
received no proper NOR. Indeed, the correspondence I have seen
pertaining to this case beggars belief.
In light of this clear and very substantial departure from the
statutory scheme, I request that you cancel the said PCN and
Charge Certificate forthwith. Please also register this with
your complaints department.
I look forward to your reply.
Yours faithfully
007
#Post#: 14852--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: February 2, 2024, 8:49 am
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Could I suggest an alternative?
If all we're looking to do is to speed along the council's
actions, then IMO any communication should be restricted to this
point and not veer into whether the contravention occurred or
not.
Dear Sir,
PCN *******; VRM ********; Issue date *******
I refer to the above, your letter dated 8 June 2023 in which you
stated that my formal representations were (oddly) rejected on
30 March 2023, your Enforcement Notice dated 5 May, your CC
dated 26 June 2023 and today's date of ******.
A period of over 7 months has now elapsed since the CC was
issued.
As owner, I am entitled to expect the council to expedite
matters in a timely fashion and not to have to order my life so
that I would be on hand to submit an in-time Statutory
Declaration to the Traffic Enforcement Centre should the
authority belatedly decide to issue an Order for Recovery.
Within the next 2 weeks you should either
Issue an OfR, or
Cancel the PCN.
Yours
#Post#: 14857--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 2, 2024, 10:02 am
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Thanks but it has gone hours ago. Let them do the work and go
through the case history. We do not want an OFR as this will
prolong matters.
#Post#: 14871--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 2, 2024, 2:43 pm
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Thank you for your email. I have looked at the PCN and can
confirm that it has been cancelled due to a processing error.
Curtis Gayle I Appeal & Monitoring Officer
Traffic, Transport & Parking, London Borough of Hounslow
Hounslow House, 7 Bath Road, Hounslow, TW3 3EB
See it. Say it. Sorted. 18.06 p.m.
The end of the beginning..............
HTML https://hounslow.tarantoportal.com/
Link says: No Matches. No records could be found for this
criteria. OK
I thought "criteria" is plural!
#Post#: 14877--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: February 2, 2024, 4:23 pm
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Well done to all !!
(should I include Mr Gayle in that ?)
#Post#: 14880--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
DIR By: efunc
Date: February 2, 2024, 5:45 pm
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Wow, that was quick! Took less than 5 hours to shut that down.
Absolute genius Hippocrates, what a result.
And thanks a heap for your help.
#Post#: 14885--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 3, 2024, 6:01 am
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I am going to continue the complaint in terms of all the other
people ripped off at this location! May be we will be looking
at an objection to their accounts at the end of the year? We
will need just one local resident/elector.
Another euphemism for Schofeldt's Euhpemism Thread on pepipoo:
Processing error=giant cock up.
#Post#: 14886--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 3, 2024, 6:02 am
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--- Quote from: efunc link ---
>
> Wow, that was quick! Took less than 5 hours to shut that down.
>
> Absolute genius Hippocrates, what a result.
>
> And thanks a heap for your help.
>
--- End Quote ---
My absolute pleasure.
#Post#: 14887--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 3, 2024, 6:03 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> Well done to all !!
> (should I include Mr Gayle in that ?)
>
--- End Quote ---
He'll be hearing from me.
#Post#: 14926--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
DIR By: guest968
Date: February 3, 2024, 2:09 pm
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Great that the PCN got cancelled, and kudos to Hippocrates.
But it seems as though the victory was down to
procedural/"technicality" issues (which I'm not trying to
trivialise - it's vital that authorities do things properly).
But now that they've got the cameras certified so they can be
used, if next time they don't mess up the procedural aspects,
some poor schmuck of a driver is going to have a much harder
time.
And yet as the OP observed, there is absolutely no way to access
those parking spaces without driving in the bus lane, which
seems utterly bonkers to me. Is this sort of thing common?
I've seen loads of bus lanes (got done-but-not-done for using
one once), but never one between a road and parking spaces.
Are they mad?
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