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Received SJPN yesterday
DIR By: guest1277
Date: February 21, 2024, 4:15 pm
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Just joined after much searching and need a little advice
August 23rd 2023 I received a NIP from Nottinghamshire police
for 37 in a 30, next day I filled out the online forms and paid
the £100 fine.
Yesterday I received an SJPN from Notts police stating I did not
supply my license details to the regional fixed penalty office.
Sadly the only paperwork I can find is the original NIP but not
the page requesting me to send my details in the post
separately.
I emailed the Notts safety Camera Partnership asking for
clarification and they replied this morning:
Good morning
Thank you for your email and attachment.
I can confirm that payment of £100 was made on 05th September
2023. However, your Driving Licence does not seem to have been
received at the Regional Fixed Penalty Office for the mandatory
three penalty points to be endorsed. On page three of the Fixed
Penalty, it explains where and how to surrender your Driving
Licence details. A copy of the Conditional Offer of a Fixed
Penalty is attached for your records.
The £100 was refunded to yourself on 14th December2023. For
further information regarding the refund please contact the
Regional Fixed Penalty Office by telephone on 01509 215715.
Regarding the Court paperwork you have received, unfortunately
there is nothing further this office can do. If you have any
further queries, please contact Nottingham Magistrates’ Court’s
helpline by telephone on 0300 303 0656 or
makeaplea.justice.gov.uk.
I hope this information is of some assistance to you.
Kind regards
I have till the 11th March to make my plea online to Notts
Magistrates court
Does this mean I will now get a criminal record and presume a
larger fine and points?
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Re: Received SJPN yesterday
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: February 22, 2024, 10:14 am
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You should respond to the SJPN by pleading guilty. In the
"Mitigation" section you should state that you provided your
licence details as directed but they either did not arrive or
were not actioned probably failed to read the conditions that
came with the fixed penalty offer and did not submit your
licence details. However, you could ask the court to consider
fining you at the fixed penalty level. The court has the
discretion to do this but probably won't agree because the
reason the matter has gone to court is your fault.
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Re: Received SJPN yesterday
DIR By: guest46
Date: February 22, 2024, 10:59 am
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Eh? The OP hasn't said they provided the details?
This reads as if the OP paid against the NIP not the conditional
Offer? Does a NIP ask for licence details for endorsement?
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Re: Received SJPN yesterday
DIR By: guest1277
Date: February 22, 2024, 11:28 am
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--- Quote from: M60NJP link ---
>
> Eh? The OP hasn't said they provided the details?
>
> This reads as if the OP paid against the NIP not the
conditional Offer? Does a NIP ask for licence details for
endorsement?
>
--- End Quote ---
As stated I can only find the original page to pay the NIP,
being honest I don't remember sending any paper off but it
concerns me that I don't remember that part of the paperwork.
#Post#: 16082--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received SJPN yesterday
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: February 22, 2024, 11:37 am
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You don’t “pay an NIP” though, you pay a conditional fixed
penalty offer. So, did you receive one of those?
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Re: Received SJPN yesterday
DIR By: guest1277
Date: February 22, 2024, 11:43 am
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--- Quote from: Southpaw82 link ---
>
> You don’t “pay an NIP” though, you pay a conditional fixed
penalty offer. So, did you receive one of those?
>
--- End Quote ---
I went online and paid the fine, supplied all the requested
details, the bit obviously either I did not get or did not do as
can't find is the paper section that goes separately to the
Regional fixed penalty office which is why I have got the SJPN
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Re: Received SJPN yesterday
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: February 22, 2024, 11:58 am
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Paid what fine though?
The normal process is that you name yourself as the driver and
the police then send you a conditional fixed penalty offer. Is
that what happened?
Some forces use a ‘combined’ form, which does allow you to pay
upfront but I’m only aware of Avon & Somerset doing that.
Regardless, if you didn’t comply with the conditions you’ll end
up in court, where you can ask to be sentenced at the fixed
penalty level.
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Re: Received SJPN yesterday
DIR By: guest1277
Date: February 22, 2024, 12:06 pm
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Sorry I'm not being very clear here :(
I got the NIP, on the front page it advises quickest way to do
it is online, which I did, confirming I was driver etc, supplied
DL number etc
then got offer in post and paid online
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Re: Received SJPN yesterday
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: February 22, 2024, 12:27 pm
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> Eh? The OP hasn't said they provided the details?
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Thanks for the correction. Senior moment. Post amended. But....
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> ...confirming I was driver etc, supplied DL number etc
>
> then got offer in post and paid online
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Did you, or did you not submit your licence details after you
paid the £100?
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