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       #Post#: 16161--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrow Code 33E Route restricted for Buses/Cycles/Taxis -
       Camrose Avenue (Again!)
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: February 23, 2024, 5:06 pm
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       Where's the video?
       #Post#: 16288--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrow Code 33E Route restricted for Buses/Cycles/Taxis -
       Camrose Avenue (Again!)
   DIR By: AceKingPin
       Date: February 26, 2024, 6:38 am
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       Still awaiting the CCTV, I've just chased them up again, does it
       normally take this long to provide?
       #Post#: 16289--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrow Code 33E Route restricted for Buses/Cycles/Taxis -
       Camrose Avenue (Again!)
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: February 26, 2024, 6:44 am
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       Fraid so.
       #Post#: 16503--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrow Code 33E Route restricted for Buses/Cycles/Taxis -
       Camrose Avenue (Again!)
   DIR By: AceKingPin
       Date: February 29, 2024, 5:43 am
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       Hello, can I ask on the basis of all the evidence in this thread
       so far (still awaiting CCTV), whether you'd think I should
       appeal this PCN or whether I should just pay the £65 whilst I
       still qualify for the discount? Many thanks
       #Post#: 16611--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrow Code 33E Route restricted for Buses/Cycles/Taxis -
       Camrose Avenue (Again!)
   DIR By: AceKingPin
       Date: March 1, 2024, 9:42 am
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       So, after another prompting email today, I finally received the
       CCTV footage. It's revealed something that could be relevant, my
       driving path. I didn't realise I'd literally just turned onto
       Camrose Avenue from St Brides's Avenue, when I encountered the
       bus gate, so didn't knowingly see any warning of this or have in
       my view, sufficient time to react. My driving path is shown
       below:
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/fHXn1m7.jpg
       So on this route I don't think I would have passed the width
       restriction warning, and I would have come straight up against
       the bus gate with very little context of knowing what was the
       right path to take.
       Does this change anything in your opinions?
       [member=24]Hippocrates[/member] [member=17]MMV Redux[/member]
       [member=12]Incandescent[/member]? Is it worth me challenging the
       PCN, and if so, what are the best grounds?
       Many thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
       #Post#: 16624--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrow Code 33E Route restricted for Buses/Cycles/Taxis -
       Camrose Avenue (Again!)
   DIR By: guest17
       Date: March 1, 2024, 11:33 am
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       Unless the "fettered to theft" approach is a sure fire winner I
       would advise settling at the discount.
       There has been a successful case of a car coming out of Dale
       Avenue but I doubt that will apply to St Bridies because the
       road markings and signage would be more evident.
       As I posted earlier they have fixed the issue of contemporary
       photos so there is no wriggle room there.
       Likewise the Sect 36 sign v TMO argument would be unlikely to
       succeed given their choice of words in their correspondence.
       You might risk the full penalty and ask that the case officer
       attend the Tribunal. A no-show wins you the case by default.
       If the case officer does attend, your first question would be
       "why have you placed the TMO in the evidence pack? Then you are
       back into the Sect 36 v TMO argument.
       Mike
       #Post#: 16634--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrow Code 33E Route restricted for Buses/Cycles/Taxis -
       Camrose Avenue (Again!)
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: March 1, 2024, 1:11 pm
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       So here is the approach to Camrose Avenue from St Bride's Avenue
       : -
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/asySdX1vLsxsnPM66
       You can see the blue bus gate signs, plus there is a sign for
       the width restriction.
       #Post#: 16641--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrow Code 33E Route restricted for Buses/Cycles/Taxis -
       Camrose Avenue (Again!)
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: March 1, 2024, 3:13 pm
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       Video?
       #Post#: 16662--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrow Code 33E Route restricted for Buses/Cycles/Taxis -
       Camrose Avenue (Again!)
   DIR By: AceKingPin
       Date: March 2, 2024, 7:44 am
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       Hello, managed to share the video file via Google Drive
       @Hippocrates - please let me know if this helps form your
       verdict:
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/11O-1ZlabuZaLN8PUl4OZYyewDEuUkBmA/view?usp=sharing
       #Post#: 16665--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrow Code 33E Route restricted for Buses/Cycles/Taxis -
       Camrose Avenue (Again!)
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: March 2, 2024, 8:07 am
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       Video seems to show you seeing the two lanes, and then moving
       left to go through the buses only lane. I can't see any credible
       appeal, sorry to have to say it.
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