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#Post#: 17521--------------------------------------------------
Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
DIR By: ManxTom
Date: March 17, 2024, 9:00 pm
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I have recently posted more frequently on Pepipoo than I have on
here, but I don't really understand why it's still stumbling
along. (Except it's stopped stumbling and fallen over again
now)
When Pepipoo failed last June, [member=1]cp8759[/member],
@Southpaw (and was it @JohnUK) did a great job getting this site
up in no time whatsoever. This site is much easier to use, has
proper security and is just better all round. It also seems to
be reliable.
The problem with Pepipoo is that it's very clunky and there's no
security - that's unacceptable today. I referred somebody to
Pepipoo from MSE a couple of weeks ago and the first thing they
did was come back and say "My browser tells me the site is
unsecure and unsafe. Is it really safe to use?"
The other problem - as proven again over the weekend - is that
it's unreliable. If the speeding and parking experts are trying
to advise posters according to statutary timescales it's no good
if the site suddenly disappears for a couple of weeks with no
warning and no access to it.
When Pepipoo went down in June I think it took over two weeks
for the owner or an administrator to turn up and get it going
again - that's no good.
I can sort of understand why some people might have some kind of
sentimental attachment to Pepipoo (well no I can't actually -
it's just a website) but I don't understand why a couple of
established posters seem to have remained exclusively on Pepipoo
and not moved over to here.
As Southpaw said previously, people are free to post on either
site, both, or neither. But I think it's a great pity if some
experienced posters have decide to remain solely on Pepipoo and
not share their knowledge on here. Pepipoo could go down again
anytime as has happened this weekend. Long term it's going
nowhere.
#Post#: 17522--------------------------------------------------
Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
DIR By: sparx
Date: March 17, 2024, 9:32 pm
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This downtime might be MJDev actually trying to get the site
updated, they did say there were going to be upgrades. You have
to remember that the domain was renewed, which costs money, so
someone has to be paying this and actioning it. Pepipoo is/was
also based on an older forum software that requires manual
hosting, this site is based on a forum service, so someone else
manages the backend.
--- Quote ---
> Pepipoo could go down again anytime as has happened this
weekend.
--- End Quote ---
You're right, but so could this site. Realistically this is
probably less likely, but I don't know the intricacies with
regards to the domain registration and other bits (i.e. how
quickly the domain could be pointed elsewhere if the
createaforum service disappeared).
Pepipoo is widely known, I wouldn't abandon it just in case you
are going to catch people that wouldn't find this site IMO.
#Post#: 17535--------------------------------------------------
Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: March 18, 2024, 3:02 am
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--- Quote from: ManxTom link ---
>
> . . .
> When Pepipoo failed last June, [member=1]cp8759[/member],
@Southpaw (and was it @JohnUK) did a great job getting this site
up in no time whatsoever. . . .
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks for the thought, but I can claim no credit whatsoever,
which is certainly due to CP, Southpaw and others.
#Post#: 17536--------------------------------------------------
Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 18, 2024, 3:23 am
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--- Quote from: sparxy link ---
>
> You're right, but so could this site.
>
--- End Quote ---
The difference is that southpaw82 owns the domain name, and if
the platform that is hosting us at the moment went down for good
we could get the site up and running again on a different
platform in half a day, maybe a day at most.
#Post#: 17550--------------------------------------------------
Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
DIR By: mickR
Date: March 18, 2024, 6:24 am
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@Sparkxy
--- Quote ---
> This downtime might be MJDev actually trying to get the site
updated, they did say there were going to be upgrades.
--- End Quote ---
you could very well be right, but if you were then it would
question MJ aka Fredd (possibly, possibly not) their approach to
contributors in not posting any warning. I get someone is doing
something behind the scenes but it's just ridiculous not to
share the plan.
#Post#: 17558--------------------------------------------------
Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
DIR By: roythebus
Date: March 18, 2024, 7:20 am
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I'm not even getting the error message this morning (about
1100). Safari just won't do anything, like Bob Marley, it's
jammin'.
#Post#: 17567--------------------------------------------------
Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
DIR By: sparx
Date: March 18, 2024, 8:25 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> The difference is that southpaw82 owns the domain name, and if
the platform that is hosting us at the moment went down for good
we could get the site up and running again on a different
platform in half a day, maybe a day at most.
>
--- End Quote ---
That's why I said in my post depending on intricacies - I don't
know how the domain registration has been done - if it were
through CreateAForum then it could get messy, versus just being
able to point it elsewhere if you have it registered directly
with a registrar.
#Post#: 17574--------------------------------------------------
Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 18, 2024, 9:22 am
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--- Quote from: sparxy link ---
>
> That's why I said in my post depending on intricacies - I
don't know how the domain registration has been done - if it
were through CreateAForum then it could get messy, versus just
being able to point it elsewhere if you have it registered
directly with a registrar.
>
--- End Quote ---
The domain is registered directly with a registrar.
#Post#: 17701--------------------------------------------------
Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
DIR By: ManxTom
Date: March 19, 2024, 9:40 am
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
>
> [quote author=ManxTom link=topic=1332.msg17521#msg17521
date=1710727219]
> . . .
> When Pepipoo failed last June, [member=1]cp8759[/member],
@Southpaw (and was it @JohnUK) did a great job getting this site
up in no time whatsoever. . . .
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks for the thought, but I can claim no credit whatsoever,
which is certainly due to CP, Southpaw and others.
[/quote]
Sorry John - I knew others had been involved in the set-up apart
from CP and Southpaw, and I thought you were one of them.
And apologies to the other person (or people) whom I should have
thanked.
#Post#: 17722--------------------------------------------------
Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
DIR By: ManxTom
Date: March 19, 2024, 1:07 pm
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> [quote author=sparxy link=topic=1332.msg17522#msg17522
date=1710729134]
> You're right, but so could this site.
>
--- End Quote ---
The difference is that southpaw82 owns the domain name, and if
the platform that is hosting us at the moment went down for good
we could get the site up and running again on a different
platform in half a day, maybe a day at most.
[/quote]
Which Pepipoo manifestly can't do.
If sites like this one and like Pepipoo are going to provide
timely and useful advice to motorists, the sites have to be
reliable so that people wanting advice know that the website
will be there to let them meet statutory deadlines.
If Pepipoo goes down for a few days (or nearly 4 weeks like I
think it did in June) it's simply not fit for purpose.
There's no point expert posters investing time and effort in
Pepipoo if it's here today, gone tomorrow. It's not a question
of sentiment.
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