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#Post#: 683--------------------------------------------------
Newham, code 01a parked in restricted street, Rutland Road
DIR By: EliteBoy8
Date: July 1, 2023, 10:29 am
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Hi everyone,
This is my first post so apologies if it is not in the correct
format, I’ve followed the guide as much as possible, also I am
writing this on behalf of my mum. Essentially, this morning when
we were leaving I saw a penalty charge notice on our car and was
very confused. The notice is due to the contravention, 01a, and
mentions temporary traffic order. There is an order on my street
that says that both sides of street from 1 Rutland Road to the
end of the street should be empty due to some works happening
and this runs from 8pm - 5am, but yesterday when my mum parked,
she & I made sure that we were behind 1 Rutland Road. Yet, the
fine was issued at 04:27, and when entering the PCN number on
Newham council website I can’t see any photos; it just tells me
to pay. My mistake here was that I should’ve taken photos of our
vehicle, both at night and in the morning when we saw the notice
but because we were in a rush, we just picked up the notice and
drove off. Could anything be done about this? Would greatly
appreciate any help & advice, we’ve not appealed before so are
unfamiliar with the process?
PCN: PN36080473. VRM: T9JWC.
Street view Link:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/Cngtt4YNdW29hzvT8?g_st=ic
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#Post#: 705--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham, code 01a parked in restricted street, Rutland Road
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 2, 2023, 6:48 am
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--- Quote from: EliteBoy8 link ---
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> There is an order on my street that says that both sides of
street from 1 Rutland Road to the end of the street should be
empty due to some works happening and this runs from 8pm - 5am,
but yesterday when my mum parked, she & I made sure that we were
behind 1 Rutland Road.
>
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Can you please take a photo of this order and post it on here?
We often find these orders to be invalid / not properly made so
that's the first thing we'll want to investigate.
Also as the photos are not online and it's been several days
now, I would contact the council and ask for a copy.
#Post#: 713--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham, code 01a parked in restricted street, Rutland Road
DIR By: EliteBoy8
Date: July 2, 2023, 9:40 am
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Link to Notice (photo):
HTML https://ibb.co/n7fn2pH
Link to PCN (photo):
HTML https://ibb.co/6nSSYzT
#Post#: 721--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham, code 01a parked in restricted street, Rutland Road
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 2, 2023, 2:15 pm
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I have requested a copy of the Temporary Traffic Regulation
Order and the other paperwork they need to support a restriction
of this type.
In the meantime please email
suspension.dispensation@newham.gov.uk and cc
anthony.Polston@newham.gov.uk asking for a copy of the
enforcement photos.
Your deadline to make representations and preserve the discount
is midnight on 10 July, so it's not mega-urgent but don't lose
track of the date. If you don't hear back from the council by
Friday next week, let us know and I'll draft an informal
representation for you.
#Post#: 749--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham, code 01a parked in restricted street, Rutland Road
DIR By: EliteBoy8
Date: July 3, 2023, 4:27 am
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Hi there!
I have sent the email over to the council, thanks for all the
support; appreciate it a lot!
#Post#: 750--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham, code 01a parked in restricted street, Rutland Road
DIR By: EliteBoy8
Date: July 3, 2023, 5:03 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> I have requested a copy of the Temporary Traffic Regulation
Order and the other paperwork they need to support a restriction
of this type.
>
> In the meantime please email
suspension.dispensation@newham.gov.uk and cc
anthony.Polston@newham.gov.uk asking for a copy of the
enforcement photos.
>
> Your deadline to make representations and preserve the
discount is midnight on 10 July, so it's not mega-urgent but
don't lose track of the date. If you don't hear back from the
council by Friday next week, let us know and I'll draft an
informal representation for you.
>
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Hi there, I got a response, they have uploaded the photos now.
The photos shows that half of our vehicle was parked in line
with 1 Rutland and half is a bit head of it. So I guess there is
nothing that can be done now, I really do appreciate your
efforts!
#Post#: 751--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham, code 01a parked in restricted street, Rutland Road
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: July 3, 2023, 5:22 am
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> So I guess there is nothing that can be done now
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Whoa! Not so fast.
Let CP explore every avenue. Meanwhile, we haven't seen the back
of the PCN nor the Council photo(s).
Please post them up.
#Post#: 752--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham, code 01a parked in restricted street, Rutland Road
DIR By: EliteBoy8
Date: July 3, 2023, 5:26 am
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Oh I haven't paid yet, but the pictures of my vehicle can be
viewed by going to:
HTML https://parking.newham.gov.uk/pages/OnlineReferenceEntry.aspx?loadtype=NOTICEREVIEW<br
/>
And my PCN is: PN36080473
And the back of PCN photo is attached.
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#Post#: 781--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham, code 01a parked in restricted street, Rutland Road
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 3, 2023, 1:54 pm
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Well it will take some time to get the details I've requested
back from the council, but send this on Monday 10 July (not
before) to buy time:
[indent]
Dear London Borough of Newham,
I contest liability for PCN PN36080473 on the basis that the
alleged contravention did not occur. The photos taken by the
civil enforcement officer show the car and the sign, but not
where the sign is in relation to the car (or vice versa). In the
circumstances, it is not apparent that there is any case to
answer, as the sign could have been anywhere and there is no
evidence that the signage as a whole was adequate.
Yours faithfully,
[/indent]
Of course the council will reject, but they will also re-offer
the discount (in the hope that you'll give up and pay). We
should have the details of the traffic order come back long
before the extended discount expires.
#Post#: 783--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham, code 01a parked in restricted street, Rutland Road
DIR By: EliteBoy8
Date: July 3, 2023, 2:14 pm
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I've done as you instructed, thank you!
That was a really good point you made! Genius :)
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