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       No insurance
   DIR By: Ballyboro
       Date: January 30, 2024, 5:48 am
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       I have insurance on a car which broke and I bought another from
       a garage who had it on a trade policy. I paid for the car and
       said I would collect documents as recently became homeless and
       living  in car. Assumed it was still insured and I would change
       when my policy came due 3/2. Got stopped by police Friday who
       gave me 7 days to produce. Went to garage and they have posted
       vehicle docs to old address and car no longer on trade policy. I
       know it’s my fault but have had lots of stress. Is it worth
       paying a solicitor to help with special measures.
       #Post#: 14609--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No insurance
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: January 30, 2024, 6:36 am
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       A trader's policy usually only covers vehicles which are being
       used in connection with his business. Once the car was sold to
       you insuring it became your responsibility, so I'm afraid it
       looks as though you are banged to rights.
       A solicitor is unlikely to be able to help. No insurance is a
       "strict liability" offence. That means you either have insurance
       or you don't and it is your responsibility to make sure you
       have. From your description you simply made an assumption that
       you remained covered. By "Special Measures" I imagine you mean
       "Special Reasons" (not to endorse your licence). Once again
       there is no chance of a court finding that, whoever you employ
       to defend you. You may be offered a fixed penalty for the
       offence (£300 and six points) but whether it's dealt with that
       way or in court (where the financial penalty will be much
       higher) six points is the inevitable outcome.
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       Re: No insurance
   DIR By: The Rookie
       Date: January 30, 2024, 7:00 am
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       To ad, Insurers don't like drivers with convictions from driving
       while uninsured (for what should be obvious reasons) and you can
       expect your premium to roughly double in the first year reducing
       to a circa 20% increase in the fifth year after conviction.  The
       financial penalty from the fixed penalty or fine will likely
       pale into insignificance by comparison.
       #Post#: 14646--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No insurance
   DIR By: guest46
       Date: January 31, 2024, 2:26 am
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       As above, I suspect a solicitor's fee is beyond your means
       (could easily be north of £1200) for a case that is most likely
       to be lost - therefore court fees, victim surcharge etc on top
       of the fine. So, you're staring at over £2k potentially.
       Take the 6 points and (hopefully) fixed penalty is the practical
       solution as your defence only has a tiny, tiny (aka zero) chance
       of success.
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