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       Re: SJP paperwork despite accepting NIP and paying fine
   DIR By: David in the North
       Date: January 30, 2024, 11:49 am
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       --- Quote from: ManxTom link ---
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       > [quote author=David in the North
       link=topic=1274.msg14607#msg14607 date=1706615852]
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       > Thanks, have just checked and there are no points on my
       licence, so it appears to be the latter option.
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       Just one other thing...
       I know the part 2 from was returned to you marked "Paid and
       endorsed" but are you 100% certain that when you sent them the
       part 2 form you included all the details (eg licence number)
       that you were asked for?
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       Good thinking! I have double checked and everything is in order
       on the Part 2 form.
       #Post#: 14634--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SJP paperwork despite accepting NIP and paying fine
   DIR By: David in the North
       Date: January 30, 2024, 11:53 am
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       Should I submit evidence at this stage with the SJP pack? Or
       just state what evidence I intend to rely on and my argument?
       #Post#: 14648--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SJP paperwork despite accepting NIP and paying fine
   DIR By: guest46
       Date: January 31, 2024, 2:29 am
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       Slim chance, but maybe check all the references line up and the
       latest isn't in relation to a separate offence? A very long
       shot, but we've seen them before.........
       #Post#: 14688--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SJP paperwork despite accepting NIP and paying fine
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: January 31, 2024, 11:28 am
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       Generally speaking, evidence is for the trial (and disclosed to
       the court and the other party ~2 weeks before the trial).
       In this case, there shouldn't be a trial as such, but unless the
       prosecution drop the case there probably will at least be a
       trial hearing in order to determine whether the prosecution is
       lawful and therefore whether a trial can go ahead.
       There is no requirement to serve any evidence at this stage, and
       it is far from certain that any evidence would be looked at
       before the trial, but it would seem prudent to enable the
       possibility of the case being dismissed without you having to
       waste a day in court.
       #Post#: 14691--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SJP paperwork despite accepting NIP and paying fine
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: January 31, 2024, 11:30 am
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       --- Quote from: M60NJP link ---
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       > Slim chance, but maybe check all the references line up and
       the latest isn't in relation to a separate offence? A very long
       shot, but we've seen them before.........
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       --- End Quote ---
       Perhaps not quite official site policy, but if OPs are going to
       waste our time by posting materially incorrect "facts", I for
       one would be more than happy for the bench to point out their
       error to them.
       #Post#: 14715--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SJP paperwork despite accepting NIP and paying fine
   DIR By: David in the North
       Date: January 31, 2024, 5:20 pm
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       Thank you everyone. I have pleaded Not Guilty as above. I will
       update you of the eventual outcome!
       #Post#: 16462--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SJP paperwork despite accepting NIP and paying fine
   DIR By: David in the North
       Date: February 28, 2024, 7:57 am
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       Hi all,
       Quick update. Today received a 'Summons on Referral to Court'
       stating that a magistrate has decided the case should be
       referred to a full hearing and it provides a date and time.
       The reason stated for the hearing is stated as 'Case management
       hearing (deft to attend)'.
       As a litigant in person is there anything I need to prepare
       before the hearing?
       #Post#: 16474--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SJP paperwork despite accepting NIP and paying fine
   DIR By: guest46
       Date: February 28, 2024, 10:59 am
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       More knowledgeable will add/correct,but given the case is fairly
       simple, I'd take everything!
       The hearing is to establish the skeleton issues in play, from
       which the court will/may issue directions to both parties in
       respect of what they need to do/proive/show at the full hearing.
       If things are as clear/certain as described, the case may be
       discontinued anyway.
       #Post#: 19301--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SJP paperwork despite accepting NIP and paying fine
   DIR By: David in the North
       Date: April 8, 2024, 9:47 am
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       Hi all,
       I'm in court in the morning for the case management hearing.
       Have all docs double checked and printed out - it seems pretty
       simple to me. Will update with the outcome.
       Should the case be dismissed tomorrow am I able to claim any
       costs for travelling and attending the hearing?
       #Post#: 19366--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SJP paperwork despite accepting NIP and paying fine
   DIR By: Irksome
       Date: April 8, 2024, 6:53 pm
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       It's late at night the evening before your hearing, but if you
       can, make sure you have adequate copies of the paperwork you are
       relying on - 6 ideally.
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