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       Speeding fine on the A1
   DIR By: mordkatz
       Date: January 22, 2024, 1:43 pm
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       Hi there
       Can anyone help me
       I borrowed a car and the main driver received a speeding fine on
       the A1, driving at 58mph exceeding the limit of 50mph
       This is my first time ever having to deal with a speeding
       ticket, i have always tried keeping a clean sheet and Driving
       safely, never got any points in the past (or even speeding
       awareness courses as this can increase insurance quotes).
       What are my options,
       i don't think it was well signposted and does anyone know if by
       law there has to be markings on the road as there wasn't?
       What can i do
       #Post#: 14162--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding fine on the A1
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: January 22, 2024, 1:55 pm
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       The main driver will not have received a speeding fine. Provided
       he is the Registered Keeper he will have received a "request for
       driver's details". A similar request will be sent to you after
       he has named you, and you will have to confirm you were the
       driver.
       After that you should receive the offer of a speed awareness
       course (provided the bit of the A1 you were on was not in
       Scotland, where courses are not offered). This will cost you
       about £100 and a bit of your time, but no points. If you don't
       fancy that a fixed penalty of £100 and three points is the
       alternative.
       #Post#: 14164--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding fine on the A1
   DIR By: mordkatz
       Date: January 22, 2024, 2:06 pm
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       ok
       the main driver is RK
       i know but he told me i have to deal with it,
       is there anyway i would be able to, not even receive an
       awareness course as it can increase my insurance quotes in the
       future
       #Post#: 14167--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding fine on the A1
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: January 22, 2024, 3:03 pm
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       > i know but he told me i have to deal with it,
       >
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       He will have to deal with it first by naming you as the driver.
       You should not respond to the notice addressed to him.
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       > is there anyway i would be able to, not even receive an
       awareness course as it can increase my insurance quotes in the
       future
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       Nope, not once the police have your details. As far as know,
       none of the major insurers ask about speeding courses.
       #Post#: 14174--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding fine on the A1
   DIR By: Southpaw82
       Date: January 22, 2024, 5:11 pm
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       I mean, the way for the OP not to get anything is to not respond
       to the notice and let his friend get 6 points and a fine. They
       probably wouldn’t be his friend for much longer mind…
       #Post#: 14183--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding fine on the A1
   DIR By: guest46
       Date: January 23, 2024, 2:56 am
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       The SAC and often 3-points seldom affects insurance premia by
       any appreciable amount. This does of course depend on how many
       the driver currently has! Do some online comparison checks and
       see what comes back? That said, whatever it does come back with
       is what it will be (bar letting the RK cop for it!)
       #Post#: 14215--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding fine on the A1
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: January 23, 2024, 3:44 pm
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       The obligation under s. 172 RTA 1988 to name the driver is
       personal, but the performance need not be (unless the addressee
       was the driver). When the police state that the form must not be
       passed to the driver, they are variously pointing out that if
       the driver then decides to ignore the form it is the addressee
       that commits the s. 172 offence, and engaging in their favourite
       hobby of making up imaginary rules/laws.
       There is no reason why the OP cannot respond on behalf of the
       RK, with the RK's permission, naming himself as the driver.
       The only issue is that the OP must understand that doing so does
       not negate his own obligation to name the driver when he
       subsequently receives a notice in his won name.
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