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       Lewisham - Code 81A - Clarendon Rise Car Park - faded restricted
       area markings
   DIR By: Blossie36
       Date: September 19, 2026, 6:44 am
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       I would be grateful for views on whether this is worth pursuing
       to the Notice to Owner/formal representations stage.
       The PCN was issued by Lewisham Council on 14 August 2026 at
       Clarendon Rise Car Park for contravention 81A: "Parked in a
       restricted area in an off-street car park or housing estate."
       I parked in an area between marked parking bays. At the time, I
       did not appreciate that the area was intended to be restricted.
       My concern is that the yellow diagonal markings were extremely
       faded, patchy and incomplete, and the area visually looked like
       a vehicle-sized space between ordinary parking bays.
       I made an informal challenge on the basis that the restriction
       was not adequately conveyed. Lewisham rejected it, saying that
       vehicles are only allowed to park wholly within a marked bay.
       I no longer have the original paper PCN, but I have attached the
       council's online PCN details page confirming the PCN number,
       vehicle, date/time and location.
       I have also uploaded all the PCN documents, council/CEO
       photographs and my own photographs here:
  HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/twdbta097tuhpyux69dls/ALnGR-YkCISQe7B2BTZYMgo?rlkey=d73xt10lgs4aoxx0vkrgle704&st=quo91iiq&dl=0s
       Lewisham's rejection letter
       the council/CEO photographs
       my own photographs taken at the location, including wider views
       and a photograph showing the faded yellow markings after the car
       had moved
       I have emailed Lewisham's Traffic Orders team asking for the
       Traffic Management Order governing Clarendon Rise Car Park,
       including the principal order, amendments, schedules and plans,
       quoting PTO-1065. I have not yet had a reply.
       The discounted payment is £80 and the discount expires on 28
       September 2026. If I continue to the Notice to Owner stage, I
       understand I may ultimately be risking the full £160.
       My main question is whether the condition and visibility of the
       markings give me a reasonable argument that the alleged
       restricted area was not adequately indicated, despite the
       general car park sign stating that vehicles should be parked
       within marked bays.
       I would particularly appreciate views on:
       whether code 81A is correctly used here
       whether the faded yellow hatching/signage point is strong enough
       to pursue
       whether Lewisham's rejection properly addresses the issue I
       raised
       whether the relevant Off-Street Parking Places Order is likely
       to be important
       Google Street View:
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       Many thanks.
       #Post#: 130914--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lewisham - Code 81A - Clarendon Rise Car Park - faded
       restricted area markings
   DIR By: catnip
       Date: September 19, 2026, 8:19 am
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       > I have also uploaded all the PCN documents, council/CEO
       photographs and my own photographs here:
       >
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       >
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