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#Post#: 130778--------------------------------------------------
Urgent!! ES Parking Enforcement PCN – Parent & Child Bay
DIR By: as4356
Date: September 18, 2026, 4:04 am
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Hi everyone,
I’m looking for some advice regarding a private parking charge
from ES Parking Enforcement at The Peel Centre, Blackburn.
The PCN says the reason was:
“Parked in a Parent and Child bay without a child.”
However, we had actually parked there because we were going to
collect our child from the play area near/under the cinema.
The car has two child seats fitted, and our child was at the
site and was collected afterwards.
I checked the evidence on ES Parking Enforcement’s website and
they only appear to have taken photographs of us leaving the car
at around 20:47, followed by photographs of the car at around
20:48.
So their conclusion seems to be based purely on seeing us walk
away from the car without a child at that moment.
They did not approach us or ask why we were using the Parent &
Child bay. Had they simply asked, we could have explained that
we were there to collect our child and it would have avoided all
of this.
I have now challenged the PCN through their official appeals
process and disputed the allegation.
In my appeal I have explained that:
we were there specifically to collect our child;
the photographs do not prove that no child was being collected
or transported;
the evidence only covers a very short period;
I have asked them to provide the exact wording of the Parent &
Child restriction they say was breached;
I have also queried the Notice to Keeper because it gives an
“incident time” rather than what appears to be a defined period
of parking.
I am also going back to the site to photograph the exact bay and
signage to see what the Parent & Child terms actually say.
I would really appreciate advice from members who are
experienced with private parking cases.
In particular:
Is there anything else I should be doing at this stage while
waiting for the appeal outcome?
Does the fact that we were collecting our child give us a
reasonable defence depending on the wording of the signage?
Is the short photographic evidence relevant if they only
observed us for around a minute?
Is there anything specific I should look for on the signage when
I go back?
If ES rejects the appeal, should the next step be the IAS, or is
there anything else I should do before that?
Are there any specific issues with ES Parking Enforcement
notices that I should be looking for?
I can upload redacted copies of the PCN, the evidence photos and
the signage once I have photographed it.
Any help on the best next steps would be really appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Urgent!! ES Parking Enforcement PCN – Parent & Child Bay
DIR By: jfollows
Date: September 18, 2026, 4:23 am
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HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/
And why the Urgent!! Do you have some sort of short deadline?
#Post#: 130782--------------------------------------------------
Re: Urgent!! ES Parking Enforcement PCN – Parent & Child Bay
DIR By: as4356
Date: September 18, 2026, 4:53 am
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Sorry it's just stressing me out, I have two kids and we always
park at the kids bays and never had a problem. Is there a way to
remove the Urgent from this post?
#Post#: 130783--------------------------------------------------
Re: Urgent!! ES Parking Enforcement PCN – Parent & Child Bay
DIR By: Sander333
Date: September 18, 2026, 4:54 am
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Do not appeal identifying the driver. As advised post PCN etc
#Post#: 130785--------------------------------------------------
Re: Urgent!! ES Parking Enforcement PCN – Parent & Child Bay
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: September 18, 2026, 4:59 am
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Please post up the PCN.
Do not identify the driver in any appeal.
Any chance you can get a picture of the signage at the location?
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Re: Urgent!! ES Parking Enforcement PCN – Parent & Child Bay
DIR By: as4356
Date: September 18, 2026, 5:09 am
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Hi please see the image of the PCN by clicking link below:
[img]
HTML https://kommodo.ai/i/cMm1fRoHcZVyOCf9KOjo[/img]
HTML https://kommodo.ai/i/cMm1fRoHcZVyOCf9KOjo
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Re: Urgent!! ES Parking Enforcement PCN – Parent & Child Bay
DIR By: as4356
Date: September 18, 2026, 5:11 am
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This is the exact wording of my appeal submitted 2 days ago, (I
will remove any reference number and personal details):
Subject: Appeal against Parking Charge Notice 123
Dear ES Parking Enforcement,
I am writing to formally appeal Parking Charge Notice 123,
issued in relation to the allegation:
“Parked in a Parent and Child bay without a child.”
I strongly dispute this allegation and request that the Parking
Charge Notice is cancelled.
The vehicle was being used to collect our child
We did not use a Parent and Child bay simply for convenience
while travelling without a child.
We attended The Peel Centre specifically to collect our child,
who was at the play area located beneath/near the cinema. Our
child was therefore at the site and was subsequently collected
and transported from the site in this vehicle.
The vehicle is regularly used to transport our children and has
two child car seats fitted. Photographs can be supplied showing
these seats if required.
The allegation that we had parked in a Parent and Child bay
“without a child” therefore does not properly reflect what
actually happened. We were parents attending the site for the
purpose of collecting our child.
Your photographs do not establish the alleged contravention
I have reviewed all of the photographic evidence available
through your online portal.
The evidence appears to consist only of photographs taken at
approximately 20:47 showing us leaving the vehicle, followed by
photographs of the vehicle at approximately 20:48.
These photographs merely show a very brief snapshot of events.
They do not demonstrate that we did not have a child to collect,
nor do they show the complete circumstances surrounding our
visit.
Most importantly, they do not show what happened when we
subsequently returned to the vehicle with our child.
It appears that the conclusion that there was “no child” was
reached simply because a child was not physically with us during
the short period in which the photographs were taken.
That assumption was incorrect.
We were collecting our child from a facility at the site.
Given that an attendant appears to have been physically present
and observed us leaving the vehicle, it is also disappointing
that no attempt was made to ask us whether we had a child with
us or why we were using the Parent and Child bay.
A simple question at the time would have allowed us to explain
immediately that we were there to collect our child and would
have avoided this entire unnecessary process.
Instead, photographs were taken over a very short period and an
assumption appears to have been made without establishing the
complete circumstances.
Please identify the exact parking term allegedly breached
If ES Parking Enforcement maintains that a parent who is
genuinely attending the site to collect their child is
prohibited from using a Parent and Child bay, please provide the
exact contractual term displayed at this location on 4 September
2026 which establishes that restriction.
In particular, please identify where the signage states that a
child must be physically accompanying the parent when the parent
exits the vehicle, rather than the bay being used by a parent
for the purpose of transporting/collecting a child.
Please also provide clear photographs of the signage applicable
to the particular bay and the wording that you contend formed
the parking contract.
Notice to Keeper
I also note that the Notice to Keeper identifies an “Incident
Time” of 20:48, but I cannot identify a specified period of
parking on the notice.
If ES Parking Enforcement intends to rely upon Schedule 4 of the
Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 to establish keeper liability,
please identify where the Notice to Keeper specifies the “period
of parking” required by Schedule 4, rather than simply providing
a single incident time.
Request for cancellation
In summary:
• Our child was at the site and we attended specifically to
collect them.
• The child subsequently travelled from the site in this
vehicle.
• The vehicle has two fitted child car seats and is routinely
used for transporting our children.
• The photographic evidence merely captures us leaving the
vehicle and the vehicle itself over a very short period.
• The photographs do not establish that no child was being
collected or subsequently transported.
• The attendant could easily have asked us about the
circumstances but did not do so.
• If ES contends that collecting a child does not qualify for
use of the bay, I request the precise contractual wording
displayed at the location establishing that restriction.
In light of the actual circumstances and the limited evidence
relied upon, I respectfully request that Parking Charge Notice
ESMN1009721 is cancelled.
If you decline this appeal, please provide a detailed response
addressing each of the points above and provide the information
necessary for the matter to be referred to the Independent
Appeals Service.
Please also preserve all photographs, attendant notes,
observation records and any other evidence relating to this
Parking Charge Notice while the matter remains disputed.
Yours faithfully,
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Re: Urgent!! ES Parking Enforcement PCN – Parent & Child Bay
DIR By: as4356
Date: September 18, 2026, 5:24 am
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Here is the signage:
HTML https://i.postimg.cc/PrDbjHHC/IMG-3724.jpg
Also this sign is not near where we parked, you need to walk on
the opposite to see it and it was dark.
This is where we parked:
HTML https://i.postimg.cc/7PFSfsMj/IMG-3723.jpg
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Re: Urgent!! ES Parking Enforcement PCN – Parent & Child Bay
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: September 18, 2026, 5:41 am
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Could you please show us the back of the NtK.
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Re: Urgent!! ES Parking Enforcement PCN – Parent & Child Bay
DIR By: as4356
Date: September 18, 2026, 5:44 am
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Here is the back of the pcn:
HTML https://kommodo.ai/i/yO2XpD7UAPch8dpKFhR0
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