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       #Post#: 130671--------------------------------------------------
       Hillingdon, Code 12, Parked in a residents bay without valid
       virtual permit, bellclose road, west drayton
   DIR By: dk007
       Date: September 16, 2026, 6:22 pm
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       Hello Experts,
       I parked at this location in west drayton, resident parking
       permit holders bay without a permit, I put it for few mins and
       was keeping an eye, I was only there for few mins but took a
       little longer
       and saw this ticket . Please can someone help, would be much
       appreciated.
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       #Post#: 130673--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon, Code 12, Parked in a residents bay without valid
       virtual permit, bellclose road, west drayton
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: September 16, 2026, 7:00 pm
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       So essentially, you chanced your arm and lost. Is that a correct
       summation of the situation ?
       #Post#: 130714--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon, Code 12, Parked in a residents bay without valid
       virtual permit, bellclose road, west drayton
   DIR By: dk007
       Date: September 17, 2026, 10:43 am
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       You can say so, i was only meant to be there for very short time
       but ended up staying longer. Any help would be greatly
       appreciated.
       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
       >
       > So essentially, you chanced your arm and lost. Is that a
       correct summation of the situation ?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 130717--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon, Code 12, Parked in a residents bay without valid
       virtual permit, bellclose road, west drayton
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: September 17, 2026, 11:00 am
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       I cannot see anything other than a challenge apologising for the
       contravention, wasn't intended, some idea of the reason why and
       request for discretion.
       Buy post a draft here first pl.
       The 14-day discount and risk-free discount period ends on 21st.
       #Post#: 130732--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon, Code 12, Parked in a residents bay without valid
       virtual permit, bellclose road, west drayton
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: September 17, 2026, 1:08 pm
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       --- Quote from: dk007 link ---
       >
       > You can say so, i was only meant to be there for very short
       time but ended up staying longer. Any help would be greatly
       appreciated.
       > [quote author=Incandescent
       link=topic=11990.msg130673#msg130673 date=1789603243]
       > So essentially, you chanced your arm and lost. Is that a
       correct summation of the situation ?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       [/quote]
       Even staying a short time is risking it, sorry to have to say
       it, because such are the vast sums gained from PCN penalties in
       London, councils flood the streets with CEOs to gather in the
       money.
       The only thing that might win is an argument based on
       mismanagement of the enforcement process. Hippocrates is our
       expert on this one, and appeals usually relies on the statutory
       grounds of "procedural impropriety", in the Traffic Management
       Act 2004
       #Post#: 130866--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon, Code 12, Parked in a residents bay without valid
       virtual permit, bellclose road, west drayton
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 18, 2026, 4:48 pm
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       Ask for discretion.  But check their website in case there are
       any errors there first.
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