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#Post#: 13590--------------------------------------------------
PCN for Suspended Bay Tower Hamlets
DIR By: summer day
Date: January 11, 2024, 7:27 am
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Car has been parked in the same spot for days, went today to
find a PCN on the window and a suspended bay sign.
Just wondering if there is anything I can do about it.
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#Post#: 13606--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Suspended Bay Tower Hamlets
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 11, 2024, 12:00 pm
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> Car has been parked in the same spot for days,
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Like how many days ?
Councils must give notice of a suspension by putting the sign up
at least 3 days before the suspension comes into force, and
longer notice is recommended. As for the motorist, it is unwise
to leave a car parked on-street in London for days on end
without checking both it and the parking signs.
#Post#: 13608--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Suspended Bay Tower Hamlets
DIR By: summer day
Date: January 11, 2024, 12:22 pm
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It's been there for a week but I moved it yesterday morning,
back to same space and didn't see the suspension signs. Us there
anywhere to see when they were put up?
I went past it twice more today and saw all the cars getting
tickets but no one was there doing any work and the suspension
was only for today.
#Post#: 13614--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Suspended Bay Tower Hamlets
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 11, 2024, 3:32 pm
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The first thing to do is to submit an informal challenge to the
PCN, stating that when you parked your car on <date>, there was
no suspension sign. The car was therefore parked legally, yet
when you returned to it a PCN had been issued on <date> only a
few days after you parked the car. You therefore claim that
insufficient notice was given of the suspension. Post-up their
reply here when you get it and we can see if it's worth taking
them to London Tribunals.
#Post#: 13675--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Suspended Bay Tower Hamlets
DIR By: Chaseman
Date: January 12, 2024, 1:31 pm
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You might like to note that the format of the Temporary
Suspension sign as photographed does not conform to the version
that Tower Hamlets got authorised in 2012, which is here:
HTML https://assets.dft.gov.uk/trafficauths/case-3525.pdf
The wording differences don't convey any difference in meaning
but they are different. Whether an adjudicator would rule this
is "substantially compliant" is a matter of judgement.
#Post#: 16821--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Suspended Bay Tower Hamlets
DIR By: summer day
Date: March 5, 2024, 6:52 am
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I've now received this reply.
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> The first thing to do is to submit an informal challenge to
the PCN, stating that when you parked your car on <date>, there
was no suspension sign. The car was therefore parked legally,
yet when you returned to it a PCN had been issued on <date> only
a few days after you parked the car. You therefore claim that
insufficient notice was given of the suspension. Post-up their
reply here when you get it and we can see if it's worth taking
them to London Tribunals.
>
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#Post#: 16829--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Suspended Bay Tower Hamlets
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 5, 2024, 8:33 am
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A typical Fob-Off letter that we see so often, in fact I have
never seen one that so totally fails to deal with the PCN and
the representations against it.
So it's now up to you, fold and cough-up, or wait for the Notice
to Owner and submit reps again.
#Post#: 16880--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Suspended Bay Tower Hamlets
DIR By: summer day
Date: March 6, 2024, 12:43 am
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Thanks, is there any way of finding out when they put the
suspension notice up before I continue with it.
I'm sure it wasn't there but maybe I just didn't see it.
#Post#: 16882--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Suspended Bay Tower Hamlets
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 6, 2024, 3:06 am
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You request the suspension log from the council. This will give
the relevant dates. However, this would delay your reps, so best
to submit reps on the basis that your car was legally parked on
<date>, and on this date, being familiar with the local parking
arrangements, and regular suspensions taking place, you checked
your car just before travelling for a short stay abroad, and no
suspension sign was seen. Therefore insufficient notice was
given of the suspension, and as a resident, you consider the
PCNs should therefore be cancelled.
#Post#: 16883--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Suspended Bay Tower Hamlets
DIR By: summer day
Date: March 6, 2024, 3:10 am
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But is that not until after the NTO?
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