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#Post#: 129864--------------------------------------------------
Harrow, parked by dropped kerb
DIR By: mrsvox
Date: September 7, 2026, 6:30 pm
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Bastards! There was nowhere else to park, and the reason this
kerb is dropped is because a previous neighbour used the
driveway behind it. Now there is an immobilised vehicle parked
in the driveway approached by this dropped kerb, the neighbour
says he is never going to move it, and says he knows where to
find me anyway if he ever DID want to move it. The dropped kerb
is no use to pedestrians as there's no dropped kerb opposite
(altho it is near a junction).
I suppose I'll have to pay it, really, but just thought I'd post
it here in case they've got anything wrong. What the hell is a
'special enforcement area'? A special opportunity for them to
fleece motorists?
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Hoping that works!
Hmmm, it doesn't seem to be. What have I done wrong? This text
doesn't show, or do anything, unless I press the little icon at
the side. But here's the text anyway without the image prefix
and postscript.
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#Post#: 129868--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow, parked by dropped kerb
DIR By: MrChips
Date: September 8, 2026, 12:52 am
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Here?
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There is a specific exemption to this offence in the legislation
in circumstances where the vehicle is parked outside residential
premises by or with the consent (but not consent given for
reward) of the occupier of the premises.
So don't give up on this one just yet. If you can get written
confirmation from your neighbour that you have his permission to
park there you should get this cancelled.
#Post#: 129875--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow, parked by dropped kerb
DIR By: mrsvox
Date: September 8, 2026, 4:15 am
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Yes, exactly there. I will try to track the neighbour down, and
get written permission. Hurrah! And a very big THANK YOU!
#Post#: 129877--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow, parked by dropped kerb
DIR By: tincombe
Date: September 8, 2026, 4:18 am
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Following on, you were given a PCN quite correctly because this
applies:
86Prohibition of parking at dropped footways etc.
(1)In a special enforcement area a vehicle must not be parked on
the carriageway adjacent to a footway, cycle track or verge
where—
(a)the footway, cycle track or verge has been lowered to meet
the level of the carriageway for the purpose of—
(iii)assisting vehicles entering or leaving the carriageway
across the footway, cycle track or verge;
So on the face of it and as far as the CEO was concerned you
were in contravention.
As MrChips has posted, there are exceptions, but a CEO is not
clairvoyant. So when you submit your reps do so in a calm and
measured manner otherwise, because they can be most
unprofessional while they're judges in their own cause, they
might just reject.
My concern here is that this is a gap between two properties and
the exception does not apply to shared drives. I suggest you
share more details here about the 'occupier's' sole right to use
this crossover before compiling the reps.
#Post#: 129881--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow, parked by dropped kerb
DIR By: mrsvox
Date: September 8, 2026, 4:34 am
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Thank you. It is my belief that the neighbour in question owns
the properties on both sides of this drive. I will check this
and make it clear in my draft, and share the draft here before
submission. It is also possible that ownership has changed, as
he has recently started to sell off his properties, so all is
not won yet, but I believe it is worth further research.
#Post#: 129889--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow, parked by dropped kerb
DIR By: tincombe
Date: September 8, 2026, 6:07 am
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IMO, any reps should be accompanied by proof that they are the
occupier, not just claims by you.
#Post#: 129913--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow, parked by dropped kerb
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: September 8, 2026, 9:15 am
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--- Quote from: tincombe link ---
>
> IMO, any reps should be accompanied by proof that they are the
occupier, not just claims by you.
>
--- End Quote ---
+1
#Post#: 130587--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow, parked by dropped kerb
DIR By: mrsvox
Date: September 16, 2026, 6:05 am
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OK, I've managed to track the neighbour down - in itself not an
easy task! I would like to get him to sign the attached, and it
will be accompanied by my representation following, if the good
souls here approve this.
His draft letter (unfortunately he reported the car, as he did
not recognise it)
I understand that mrsvox is having problems, having been issued
a parking ticket for parking across the dropped kerb between
numbers xx and xx in West Street.
I own numbers xx, xx and xx in West Street, and I can confirm
that I have given mrsvox specific permission to park there, as
parking is often difficult in West Street. We have been
neighbours for over 30 years, and, as I said to her, I know
where to find her if I need access to this dropped kerb.
Unfortunately mrsvox bought a new car last November, and I do
not recall her telling me about this, so I was unable to
reassure the parking attendant who issued the ticket that the
car belonged to the neighbour who had permission to park there.
mrsvox has now given me a thorough introduction to her new car!
I hope that in this circumstance you will consider cancelling
this ticket since it was issued in error.
My draft letter
I have received a parking ticket number xxxxx for parking
outside a residential property with a dropped kerb which allows
the owner of the property access to his driveway. Mr xxx has
actually given me specific permission to park there - his
comment was 'if I ever need access, I know where you live',
Unfortunately, although I am sure I notified him of my change of
vehicle when I bought my new car last November, he had no
recollection of this and so was unable to tell the parking
attendant that the car was one which had permission to use the
space. I have now ensured that he knows that this car is mine in
case I ever have to park there again, but I trust that in these
circumstances it is clear that I was parked in the space with
the permission of the owner, and this ticket can be cancelled.
Comments pretty please...
#Post#: 130596--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow, parked by dropped kerb
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: September 16, 2026, 6:40 am
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That should be enough for the council to cancel; lets hope they
do so, but such is their rapacious greed for money they may not,
and you'll have to wait for the Notice to Owner. Reps against
these are studied more carefully.
#Post#: 130609--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow, parked by dropped kerb
DIR By: tincombe
Date: September 16, 2026, 9:07 am
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Let's see what comes back from the council.
If they have queries regarding your permission, then they should
get back to you for clarification and not reject because of
these concerns.
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