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       NIP not received - split from hijacked thread
   DIR By: Worlds
       Date: September 4, 2026, 9:19 am
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       Hi, I’m new here, similar problem to OP and I have until the
       10th Sept to submit my guilty/not guilty plea.
       I did speed 35 in a 30, but never received it due to moving and
       not updating my V5.
       Do I plead guilty to speeding on the online form, and not guilty
       to the failure to respond charge? Is that where you’re saying to
       ‘see if they’ll take that plea’?
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       Re: NIP not received - split from hijacked thread
   DIR By: JustLoveCars
       Date: September 4, 2026, 9:29 am
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       > Hi, I’m new here...
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       Then this link
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/speeding-and-other-criminal-offences/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!/<br
       />would be ideal for you...
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       Re: NIP not received - split from hijacked thread
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: September 4, 2026, 10:14 am
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       > Do I plead guilty to speeding on the online form, and not
       guilty to the failure to respond charge? Is that where you’re
       saying to ‘see if they’ll take that plea’?
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       Not if you want to avoid the risk of getting nine points.
       The police have no evidence that you were driving so the
       speeding charge cannot succeed (unless you plead guilty to it).
       The risk (albeit a small one as it doesn’t often happen) is that
       you will be convicted of speeding (courtesy of your guilty plea)
       and then be convicted of the “Fail to Provide” (FtP) charge as
       you have no realistic defence to it.
       Assuming your SJPN mentions both the “Fail to Provide” charge
       and speeding, respond to the Single Justice Procedure Notice
       (SJPN) by pleading not guilty to both offences. In the "reasons
       for pleading not guilty" section say you are willing to plead
       guilty to the speeding offence on the condition that the
       "failure to provide driver's details" charge is dropped.
       Before the pandemic it was necessary to attend court to
       negotiate this "deal". When the pandemic hit, courts were
       obviously keen to avoid as many personal attendances as possible
       and arrangements were made for this deal to be accepted without
       a court attendance. Many courts have continued with this process
       but some have reverted to requiring a  personal appearance. If
       you make your intentions clear in response to the SJPN you may
       be saved a trip.
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