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       £1,400 of private parking fines on road?
   DIR By: worriedspinach8531
       Date: September 1, 2026, 1:18 pm
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       Scotland. I have parked on Marchburn Dr, Paisley PA3 2SJ before
       with no issues for over a week. I parked here for 14 days while
       away on holiday. There was no clear signage saying I couldn't
       park there and there are always cars parked along the road. I've
       been given separate private parking fines for every day I was
       there so 14x £100 fines. Previous experience, other people
       parked there and no warning signs made me think there were no
       concerns.
       The fines from CPM Car Park Management say: Reason: No parking
       at any time.
       £1,400 of private parking fines is ridiculous for parking on a
       road without any obvious signage. It was the first family
       overseas holiday we've been able to afford in 10 years and this
       is a nightmare.
       Please can anyone help?
       #Post#: 129312--------------------------------------------------
       Re: £1,400 of private parking fines on road?
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: September 1, 2026, 1:43 pm
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       Scotland.
       No keeper liability.
       Search the forum.
       Do not identify the driver.
       Otherwise read
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       />and provide the information requested.
       #Post#: 129315--------------------------------------------------
       Re: £1,400 of private parking fines on road?
   DIR By: Sander333
       Date: September 1, 2026, 2:06 pm
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       Despite no keeper liability in Scotland. Given the amount they
       may well consider as in the case of Carly Mackie. You can appeal
       not naming driver explaining the no keeper liabilities. I would
       consider obtaining any signs or lack thereof just in case they
       may move to court.
       #Post#: 129352--------------------------------------------------
       Re: £1,400 of private parking fines on road?
   DIR By: DrSatan
       Date: September 2, 2026, 2:53 am
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       A quick look at GSV shows that (in 2024 at least) there was a
       sign at the entrance saying that Glasgow Airport Byelaws applied
       in that area. You would be well advised to look them up and see
       what they say about parking.
       As stated, you probably also want to do the following:
       1. Go back and get pictures of current signage.
       2. Appeal as keeper. Don't name the driver. There's no keeper
       liability in Scotland so they can't transfer it to the keeper.
       3. If you weren't the driver, say so. If you were the driver,
       don't lie. Just keep quiet.
       However, the value of the claim puts you in a pickle. Parking
       companies don't normally do court in Scotland because the value
       of the claim is such that they can't recover expenses so hiring
       a lawyer is a waste of money. For a claim of £1400, they could
       claim expenses of up to £150 if they win, which might make them
       feel it's worth a shot.
       If they send a lawyer to court they'll have an opportunity to
       ask you (the keeper) who was driving. I don't need to tell you
       how bad an idea lying in court is.
       They know your identity as keeper. If you have any social media
       photos showing you on holiday for the 2 weeks you were parked
       next to the airport now would be a great time to make sure
       they're private.
       If the worst comes to the worst and they do take this to court,
       you may also have a partial escape route. They've said that the
       contravention is no parking at any time. The vehicle was parked
       once, so one ticket is potentially valid. If they'd issued one
       ticket for £1400 saying it's £100 per day then fine, but they
       haven't. they've issued 14 tickets, which implies 14 separate
       contraventions. But if the driver was in Benidorm for the entire
       day the car was there and never touched it, they can't have
       formed another contract. This avenue will likely depend on the
       signage and / or the byelaws.
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       Re: £1,400 of private parking fines on road?
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: September 2, 2026, 5:26 am
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       --- Quote from: DrSatan link ---
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       > But if the driver was in Benidorm for the entire day the car
       was there and never touched it, they can't have formed another
       contract. This avenue will likely depend on the signage and / or
       the byelaws.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Exactly what the signage says here is likely to be important -
       whilst they will only have formed one contract, that contract
       may entitle the operator to recover a £100 charge for every 24
       hour period.
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       > If they send a lawyer to court they'll have an opportunity to
       ask you (the keeper) who was driving.
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm not familiar with the Scottish system - can a defendant opt
       for a hearing on the papers? We normally advise against this (as
       it reduces the cost for the claimant, thereby reducing their
       chances of discontinuation), but if it avoids questions the
       defendant may not wish to navigate, it could be advisable. After
       all, it is for the claimant to prove their case, not for the
       defendant to disprove it.
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       Re: £1,400 of private parking fines on road?
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: September 2, 2026, 7:31 am
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       Had a quick look on GSV.
       The road has stretches with double yellows and stretches
       without.
       This might well constitute contradictory markings (in terms of
       both common sense and the Code of Practice) if the matter is
       pursued on the grounds of 'no parking on the roadways' which is
       the normal angle these people state.
       If the keeper was not the driver then I WOULD NOT reveal this
       fact at this early stage - the fact can be used tactically at a
       later stage to derail the claim should it progress - the
       Claimant will moan about the later revelation but the Defendant
       can rebut such a complaint by saying that the law does not
       require the keeper to reveal driver details at any stage.
       The Defendant can also make it clear (in their paperwork) that
       they will not be revealing the driver under any circumstance -
       the Defendant will point out that this is a contract dispute and
       not a dispute under traffic law and therefore the Defendant has
       the right to remain silent (not reveal the driver) in the
       circumstance does not require them to provide such information.
       If asked under examination the Defendant can simply reiterate
       their legal position - quote from VCS Ltd v Edward if needed.
       This will probably be a drawn out process.
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       Re: £1,400 of private parking fines on road?
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: September 2, 2026, 9:24 am
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       --- Quote from: InterCity125 link ---
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       > If the keeper was not the driver then I WOULD NOT reveal this
       fact at this early stage - the fact can be used tactically at a
       later stage to derail the claim should it progress - the
       Claimant will moan about the later revelation but the Defendant
       can rebut such a complaint by saying that the law does not
       require the keeper to reveal driver details at any stage.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       What tactical advantage is to be gained from this? If true,
       mentioning from the outset would seem to dramatically reduce the
       chances of a claim proceeding altogether (and arguably make the
       claimant appear unreasonable if they proceed having been availed
       of this fact).
       #Post#: 129442--------------------------------------------------
       Re: £1,400 of private parking fines on road?
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: September 2, 2026, 4:50 pm
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       I have parked on Marchburn Dr, Paisley PA3 2SJ before with no
       issues for over a week. I parked here for 14 days while away on
       holiday. There was no clear signage saying I couldn't park there
       and there are always cars parked along the road. I've been given
       separate private parking fines for every day
       ..therefore we need objective facts, so post the docs requested
       pl - see reply #1.
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