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       Giving way to emergency vehicles
   DIR By: Steve051264
       Date: August 29, 2026, 6:16 am
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       On the 5th of March, i got stopped for not giving way to a
       police vehicle. I was in a large panel van and could not see
       him. Due to bright sunshine, his blue lights gave off no visible
       ambient light and i could not see him directly due to blind
       spot. Traffic was fairly heavy and i was in the outside lane
       passing HGV and other traffic. I could not hear the siren over
       the noise of the engine, traffic and radio.
       He admitted that this wasn't an offence but was going to ticket
       me as he assumed i wasn't checking my mirrors frequently enough
       so 'driving without undue care and attention'.
       I refused to accept the 3 options on the recieved ticket and
       complained to the police force but they replied that the court
       need to deal with it regardless of whether it is a vexatious
       charge.
       I have a copy of video from body worn camera, which has been
       redacted slightly, but it doesn't really help the officer or
       myself. I think part of the redacted video shows the officer
       saying i had not committed an offense. Can i request the full
       video?
       Also, as he could not see me, would an assumption that i wasn't
       checking my mirrors frequently be enough for him to issue a
       ticket?
       #Post#: 129154--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Giving way to emergency vehicles
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: August 29, 2026, 6:42 am
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       If this goes to court, tickets are irrelevant.
       You can ask for a spicy meatfeast pizza, but it doesn't mean
       you're going to get it.
       What he probably said was that obstructing an emergency vehicle
       is not a specific offence if you are not aware that you are
       obstructing it.
       However, if he told you, on bodycam, that he doesn't think you
       committed any offence whatsoever, but he's going to stick you on
       anyway because who are the court going to believe, then you
       probably want to get a copy of the unredacted footage, including
       the earlier footage of him loosing his sh*t when Lord Lucan
       overtook him riding Shergar.
       If hew was behind you for a significant time with blues and twos
       on, far enough back that he would have been clearly visible in
       your mirrors, and you failed to see him, that would seem to be
       evidence that your driving fell below the standard expected of a
       careful and competent driver.
       That said, on the many, many times I have seen police with blues
       and twos being held up by oblivious drivers, I've never seen
       said drivers pulled over for obstructing an emergency vehicle,
       as the occifer had something more pressing to deal with - hence
       the blues and twos. However, if Morse had instructed Lewis to
       put the blues and twos on because he was fed up of sitting in
       traffic, he might be more inclined to stop and throw the book at
       someone who had failed to respect his authoritah.
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