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       London Borough of Redbridge – box junction on Goodmayes Road
   DIR By: TwistedEdge
       Date: August 28, 2026, 10:51 am
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       I just received this PCN for driving into a box junction at the
       junction of Goodmayes Road and Goodmayes Avenue.
       The driver followed a van to try and overtake the bus –
       believing there to be enough space – but was prevented from
       doing so by oncoming  traffic.
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       Are there any arguments to be made here?
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       Re: London Borough of Redbridge – box junction on Goodmayes Road
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: August 28, 2026, 12:41 pm
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       We need to see the video before commenting, so please post the
       PCN number and the car registration, or go onto the Redbridge
       website, find the video and post it here.
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       Re: London Borough of Redbridge – box junction on Goodmayes Road
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: August 28, 2026, 1:20 pm
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       Maybe a case can be made this is a driving manoeuvre with
       obvious intention to pass the bus.
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       Re: London Borough of Redbridge – box junction on Goodmayes Road
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: August 28, 2026, 6:12 pm
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       Yes, a possibiity, although I think you'd need the "right"
       adjudicator at London Tribunals. The car was only prevented from
       exiting the box due to moving vehicles in the opposite
       direction. But OP mus risk the full PCN penalty, of course.
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       Re: London Borough of Redbridge – box junction on Goodmayes Road
   DIR By: TwistedEdge
       Date: August 29, 2026, 12:08 am
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
       >
       > Maybe a case can be made this is a driving manoeuvre with
       obvious intention to pass the bus.
       >
       > [img width=799.9989624023438
       height=448.9974365234375]
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       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Pretty much – the van moving forwards created the impression of
       a clear road, but pulling up too close to the bus obscured the
       view of the oncoming people carrier.
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