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       #Post#: 129083--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Unpaid toll charge - debt recovery
   DIR By: Jackisback123
       Date: August 28, 2026, 2:57 am
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       --- Quote from: InterCity125 link ---
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       > I take your point but one would have to ask the question, how
       does Excel Parking become the creditor in any action?
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       I would say Article 8(3) of the Order
  HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2024/630/article/8/made:
       > MSCC may appoint any person to collect tolls or charges as its
       agent.
       Don't get me wrong, there are a number of issues with this whole
       scheme*, but the keeper only being liable criminally IMO is not
       correct.
       * E.g. Article 8(4) states:
       > The person by whom tolls under this Order and penalty charges
       imposed in connection with this Order are payable in respect of
       a motor vehicle is the registered keeper.
       There is a separate argument as to whether the UTCs are Penalty
       Charges. I think they are not.
       If they are not: then the keeper on the face of it cannot be
       liable for them because the Order only makes the keeper liable
       for tolls and penalty charges.
       If the are: then there is a failure to offer adjudication etc in
       accordance with the penalty charges legislation.
       E.g. 2: The deadline on the signage does not match the byelaws.
       #Post#: 129143--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Unpaid toll charge - debt recovery
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: August 29, 2026, 1:56 am
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       Like you, when I read the byelaws I also found contradiction.
       I got the distinct feeling that the last section of the byelaws
       was 'tacked on' possible by the parking company. The wording was
       very awkward.
       #Post#: 129144--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Unpaid toll charge - debt recovery
   DIR By: Jackisback123
       Date: August 29, 2026, 4:11 am
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       Yeah, it's not been drafted very well at all.
       8(4) I think is copied from the Mersey legislation, but that is
       a proper penalty charge scheme.
       #Post#: 129210--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Unpaid toll charge - debt recovery
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: August 31, 2026, 2:54 am
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       #Post#: 129243--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Unpaid toll charge - debt recovery
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: September 1, 2026, 4:10 am
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       OP, I have received an Unpaid toll notice...
       Which we have yet to see!
       PL post this because we must see what it says. Only redact
       personal info.
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