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       #Post#: 128787--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it worth getting a lawyer?
   DIR By: Believe82
       Date: August 25, 2026, 7:50 am
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       I have answered everything you asked truthfully.
       
       #Post#: 128788--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it worth getting a lawyer?
   DIR By: JustLoveCars
       Date: August 25, 2026, 7:51 am
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       --- Quote from: Believe82 link ---
       >
       > ...is it worth or not to get a lawyer?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think you may need one to unravel what's actually happened as
       it may be critical.  (For example, let's just say you did have
       an EH accepted then you cannot run that argument again)
       But Lawyers (Barristers) cannot magic defences if there isn't
       one.  As an example, see This
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/speeding-and-other-criminal-offences/is-it-worth-appealing-a-speeding-ban-totting-up/<br
       />recent thread.  The barrister gets paid (handsomely) no matter
       what the outcome for you...
       #Post#: 128789--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it worth getting a lawyer?
   DIR By: Believe82
       Date: August 25, 2026, 7:55 am
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       --- Quote from: JustLoveCars link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Believe82 link=topic=11823.msg128780#msg128780
       date=1787657469]
       > ...is it worth or not to get a lawyer?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think you may need one to unravel what's actually happened as
       it may be critical.  (For example, let's just say you did have
       an EH accepted then you cannot run that argument again)
       But Lawyers (Barristers) cannot magic defences if there isn't
       one.  As an example, see This
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/speeding-and-other-criminal-offences/is-it-worth-appealing-a-speeding-ban-totting-up/<br
       />recent thread.  The barrister gets paid (handsomely) no matter
       what the outcome for you...
       [/quote]
       Thanks
       #Post#: 128793--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it worth getting a lawyer?
   DIR By: Southpaw82
       Date: August 25, 2026, 8:03 am
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       Yes, get a lawyer. Hopefully they’ll be able to get to the
       bottom of this mess.
       #Post#: 128795--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it worth getting a lawyer?
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: August 25, 2026, 8:06 am
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       --- Quote ---
       > In the start of this post I posted my previous post with
       everything you need to know about my earlier issues.
       --- End Quote ---
       I would beg to differ.
       In your earlier post you mentioned seven allegations. You said
       you’d paid a fixed penalty for one and were thinking about doing
       the same for another (but we don’t know whether you did). We’ve
       no idea what happened with the remaining five.
       Also according to your post, all the NIPs arrived after the
       14-day period required by law (between 40 and 58 days after the
       alleged offences). You were advised what this means in terms of
       a possible defence.
       The last we heard was that on January 11th you told us you had
       received a letter telling you to expect a date for a court
       hearing. And that’s that.
       Now you tell us that you have another allegation made against
       you and all you can tell us about your earlier court appearance
       is that you were not banned. You gave two explanations for this,
       one of which (the court removing the earliest of the nine points
       you said you had) is plainly incorrect and the other (them
       allowing you to continue to drive because you said “something
       about needing a licence for work") is extremely unlikely.
       So we need to know (as a minimum for starters):
       What offences you either accepted fixed penalties for, or were
       convicted in court of, the offence dates and the number of
       points imposed. You can find this out by checking your driving
       record online:
  HTML https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence
       How many of those offences were dealt with at your earlier court
       appearance and why, with seven allegations that you mentioned,
       you were not disqualified.
       That’s the only way you will begin to get any sensible advice on
       here.
       You asked whether it was worth employing a lawyer. My answer is
       that if you are similarly reticent or unable to share important
       information with them as you are here, you are wasting your time
       and money.
       #Post#: 128798--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it worth getting a lawyer?
   DIR By: Believe82
       Date: August 25, 2026, 8:32 am
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       --- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
       >
       > [quote]In the start of this post I posted my previous post
       with everything you need to know about my earlier issues.
       --- End Quote ---
       I would beg to differ.
       In your earlier post you mentioned seven allegations. You said
       you’d paid a fixed penalty for one and were thinking about doing
       the same for another (but we don’t know whether you did). We’ve
       no idea what happened with the remaining five.
       [/quote]
       I already told, first one I paid the fine and for the remaining
       I got an £80 fine (already paid)
       --- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
       >
       >
       > Also according to your post, all the NIPs arrived after the
       14-day period required by law (between 40 and 58 days after the
       alleged offences). You were advised what this means in terms of
       a possible defence.
       >
       > The last we heard was that on January 11th you told us you had
       received a letter telling you to expect a date for a court
       hearing. And that’s that.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I could never prove that I had change the address on the V5, so
       this was never a defence.
       I was considered guilty and asked to give an explanation of why
       I should not have my licence suspended, as I already mentioned
       my reply.
       --- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
       >
       >
       > Now you tell us that you have another allegation made against
       you and all you can tell us about your earlier court appearance
       is that you were not banned. You gave two explanations for this,
       one of which (the court removing the earliest of the nine points
       you said you had) is plainly incorrect and the other (them
       allowing you to continue to drive because you said “something
       about needing a licence for work") is extremely unlikely.
       >
       > So we need to know (as a minimum for starters):
       >
       > What offences you either accepted fixed penalties for, or were
       convicted in court of, the offence dates and the number of
       points imposed. You can find this out by checking your driving
       record online:
       >
       >
  HTML https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I already told you only one offence appears as current on my
       points.
       --- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
       >
       > How many of those offences were dealt with at your earlier
       court appearance and why, with seven allegations that you
       mentioned, you were not disqualified.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       All of them. I have no idea why I was not disqualified. I never
       got a letter for them. I only found out I had a fine after
       chasing 2 months later.
       --- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
       >
       > That’s the only way you will begin to get any sensible advice
       on here.
       >
       > You asked whether it was worth employing a lawyer. My answer
       is that if you are similarly reticent or unable to share
       important information with them as you are here, you are wasting
       your time and money.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I gave you all information I have. there is nothing else to
       disclose.
       #Post#: 128802--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it worth getting a lawyer?
   DIR By: ManxTom
       Date: August 25, 2026, 9:18 am
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       --- Quote from: Believe82 link ---
       >
       > [
       > ... All of them. I have no idea why I was not disqualified. I
       never got a letter for them. I only found out I had a fine after
       chasing 2 months later...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Sorry but are you saying that you never attended court in
       January, that the court never contacted you to say what the
       outcome of the trial was, and that you only learned that you had
       been fined £80(?) when you chased it up with the court yourself?
       As others have said you might be better to find a lawyer who can
       get to the bottom of this and unravel what isn't relevant from
       what is
       #Post#: 128805--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it worth getting a lawyer?
   DIR By: Believe82
       Date: August 25, 2026, 9:23 am
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       --- Quote from: ManxTom link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Believe82 link=topic=11823.msg128798#msg128798
       date=1787664757]
       > [
       > ... All of them. I have no idea why I was not disqualified. I
       never got a letter for them. I only found out I had a fine after
       chasing 2 months later...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Sorry but are you saying that you never attended court in
       January, that the court never contacted you to say what the
       outcome of the trial was, and that you only learned that you had
       been fined £80(?) when you chased it up with the court yourself?
       As others have said you might be better to find a lawyer who can
       get to the bottom of this and unravel what isn't relevant from
       what is
       [/quote]
       No you are misinterpreting what I just said.
       I attended court (though never in person), I was tried, and as I
       said before I got a letter saying I was going to get my licence
       suspended and if I had something to defend against this, and
       that's when I replied with the answer I said.
       After that I did not get any more replies and 2 months later I
       found out I had £80 fine and 3 points on my licence.
       #Post#: 128816--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it worth getting a lawyer?
   DIR By: FuzzyDuck
       Date: August 25, 2026, 9:41 am
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       --- Quote from: Believe82 link ---
       >
       > No you are misinterpreting what I just said.
       > I attended court (though never in person)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Well that clears that up...
       #Post#: 128819--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it worth getting a lawyer?
   DIR By: Believe82
       Date: August 25, 2026, 9:52 am
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       --- Quote from: FuzzyDuck link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Believe82 link=topic=11823.msg128805#msg128805
       date=1787667819]
       > No you are misinterpreting what I just said.
       > I attended court (though never in person)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Well that clears that up...
       [/quote]
       I did say I went to court on my first post.
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