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Re: Advice on handling a speeding ticket that was never sent
DIR By: ManxTom
Date: August 27, 2026, 7:49 am
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--- Quote from: BertB link ---
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> The court have the date, the judgement and your licence
number. It shouldn't be too hard to track down the case...
>
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Is that necessarily right?
If the error is at DVLA's end (eg a transposition error or "fat
finger" error) it may not help the mags court to know the OP's
DL number (or name and DOB)
All we know (or can presume) is that somebody else's conviction
got wrongly recorded against the OP's licence (and name).
Depending on the nature and extent of the error (and who
committed it) the mags court may have no details that can be
linked to the OP.
(I am assuming the court have already genuinely tried to find
these details and have failed. Or at least that is what they
have told the OP. I suppose the next step would be for court
staff to look at every relevant conviction on the date in
question and check to see if those convictions have been
recorded against the correct licences and drivers by the DVLA.
Or perhaps they have the power to direct the DVLA to do that?)
#Post#: 129021--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advice on handling a speeding ticket that was never sent
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: August 27, 2026, 8:31 am
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I've never read any Kafka, but I know what Kafkaesque means.
We are dealing with two intransigent and incompetent state
bodies who both both consider themselves to be *the law* (or
otherwise above the law), and that this isn't their problem.
Taking what the OP has told us at face value, one of them has
f*cked up (possibly both, but Occam's razor suggests that that
is unlikely).
Both bodies are overseen (to a greater or lesser extent) by the
relevant ministers, and the High Court has supervisory
jurisdiction over all public bodies that are not directly
answerable to Parliament.
The "appeal of last resort" is an application for Judicial
Review (the High Court). If all else fails, IMHO the last resort
would be to apply for a Judicial Review against both parties -
Nottinghamshire Magistrates' Court and the DVLA. Whilst
presumably one of those parties is innocent, the guilty party
would be responsible for the innocent party necessarily being
dragged through the process.
A Judicial Review application, as with virtually all litigation,
has a pre-action protocol. That protocol (basically a Letter
Before Action) might serve to readjust their "not my problem"
attitude, although I wouldn't hold my breath.
Logically, if the court will inform the DVLA that they never
ordered the endrosement of your licence, then it would seem to
be irrational for the DVLA not to rescind the endorsement, and
in the same vein, if the court were minded to do that, it would
seem irrational for them not to further instruct the DVLA to
rescind the endorsement.
What it is important to *focus* on what you know, rather than
what you merely suspect, if this issue is the result of fraud
(and perjury/perverting the course of justice/contempt of
court/etc.) then the court could potentially have been blameless
in their actions (although as a matter of law the conviction
must be wrong, regardless of whether they should have known) -
but *if* they did convict you wrongly due to fraud, they were
IMHO clearly wrong not to find any record of it.
Personally, I consider endorsing a driver's licence without
retaining a copy of the instruction to be exceedingly arrogant
and systemically incompetent - or from the DVLA's perspective,
business as usual.
#Post#: 129053--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advice on handling a speeding ticket that was never sent
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: August 27, 2026, 2:05 pm
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You may be interested in this thread from another forum, which
dealt with a very similar problem to yours:
HTML https://nationalconsumerservice.co.uk/topic/474462-someone-elses-offence-and-points-on-my-driving-licence-record-at-dvla/
You will see there was eventually a satisfactory outcome, but
that was more by virtue of a bit of luck and a following wind
than anything either the court or the DVLA did.
#Post#: 129089--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advice on handling a speeding ticket that was never sent
DIR By: BertB
Date: August 28, 2026, 4:04 am
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--- Quote from: ManxTom link ---
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> [quote author=BertB link=topic=11809.msg129011#msg129011
date=1787832785]
> The court have the date, the judgement and your licence
number. It shouldn't be too hard to track down the case...
>
--- End Quote ---
Is that necessarily right?
If the error is at DVLA's end (eg a transposition error or "fat
finger" error) it may not help the mags court to know the OP's
DL number (or name and DOB)
All we know (or can presume) is that somebody else's conviction
got wrongly recorded against the OP's licence (and name).
Depending on the nature and extent of the error (and who
committed it) the mags court may have no details that can be
linked to the OP.
(I am assuming the court have already genuinely tried to find
these details and have failed. Or at least that is what they
have told the OP. I suppose the next step would be for court
staff to look at every relevant conviction on the date in
question and check to see if those convictions have been
recorded against the correct licences and drivers by the DVLA.
Or perhaps they have the power to direct the DVLA to do that?)
[/quote]
You have more or less just repeated my suggestion. If the DVLA
do not keep records (Shocking but unsurprising) the only course
of action is via the MC. Given the detail known versus the
potential detail unknown, they should still be in a position to
recover the documentation regarding the conviction with the
information the OP has.
#Post#: 129136--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advice on handling a speeding ticket that was never sent
DIR By: sparx
Date: August 28, 2026, 6:44 pm
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OP: Have you submitted a SAR to DVLA yet (include specifically
for any information / communications that reference said
endorsements)? Whilst the people on web chat and the phones may
not have access to or see the court requests, the data
controller or assistant may well be able to.
You may also have some luck contacting your local MP.
HTML https://members.parliament.uk/FindYourMP
Have you told your insurer that you are following this up, and
keeping them updated? It may be that they enforce you to pay a
slightly increased premium (which ideally you'd get refunded if
this does turn out to be a complete stuff-up).
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