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#Post#: 13393--------------------------------------------------
Barnet 31J stopping in box junction Cricklewood Broadway
DIR By: hotline
Date: January 6, 2024, 2:45 pm
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Hello everyone,
cp8759 advised me to post my topic here
HTML http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=152282
on this
forum also:
Got a PCN letter through the post which ruined my Saturday
morning, and I think I've been wrongly charged.
PCN:
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2pj9ZiX
Video evidence:
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2pj9SUQ
Image evidence 1:
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2pj9SQB
Image evidence 2:
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2pjbuhQ
(VRN close up)
Image evidence 3:
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2pjccGK
Street view:
HTML https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5570244,-...i8192?entry=ttu
Its not that long ago so I remember that I actually stopped
right before the yellow box, and the video evidence confirms
this.
The evidence images blur out my car and only show the silver car
in front, except for the one image which is a close up of my
VRN.
So it seems the council mistake my car which is the grey Astra
with the silver car ahead that went into the box.
How do I get them to cancel the PCN please? I challenged it via
their online portal but haven't heard back for over a month!
Many thanks in advance for any advice you can give.
#Post#: 13398--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barnet 31J stopping in box junction Cricklewood Broadway
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 6, 2024, 4:31 pm
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If you have already submitted representations, you must await a
reply. Please post it here when you get it.
Is your car grey, it looks black in the video ? Anyway,
definitely no contravention whatsoever as the video shows. Looks
like their camera operator needs to go to Specsavers. Quite
disgraceful to issue such a load of tosh.
#Post#: 13400--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barnet 31J stopping in box junction Cricklewood Broadway
DIR By: MrChips
Date: January 6, 2024, 5:06 pm
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I don't even think the silver car committed a contravention. It
slows as it reaches the end of the box but can't see that it
actually comes to a complete stop until the video ends.
#Post#: 13415--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barnet 31J stopping in box junction Cricklewood Broadway
DIR By: Chaseman
Date: January 7, 2024, 10:08 am
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Correct. I can't see the silver car stopping at all in the box.
The general assumption is that one has to be stopped for more
than 5-6 seconds for an offence to be committed and the CCTV
does not show this. The fact that it is not even your car adds
insult to injury. If you have not already appealed, send the
CCTV back to the LA and ask them to blow up the number plate
(on your car) in that video and ask them if it shows you
stopping in the YBJ.
#Post#: 13417--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barnet 31J stopping in box junction Cricklewood Broadway
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: January 7, 2024, 10:21 am
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There is no time limit which applies to a contravention and many
adjudicators do not employ any de minimis arguments at all.
The ones who used to have now left.
#Post#: 13467--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barnet 31J stopping in box junction Cricklewood Broadway
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: January 8, 2024, 9:57 am
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Well whatever happened there was not a contravention by any of
the cars in the video
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Re: Barnet 31J stopping in box junction Cricklewood Broadway
DIR By: hotline
Date: January 16, 2024, 2:53 pm
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Good news everyone! Just got cancellation of PCN through the
post today. Thank you all for your advice.
#Post#: 13860--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barnet 31J stopping in box junction Cricklewood Broadway
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: January 16, 2024, 2:54 pm
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--- Quote from: hotline link ---
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> Good news everyone! Just got cancellation of PCN through the
post today. Thank you all for your advice.
>
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Why? Details please.
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Re: Barnet 31J stopping in box junction Cricklewood Broadway
DIR By: hotline
Date: January 16, 2024, 3:46 pm
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Sure, here is the letter:
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2psRap2
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Re: Barnet 31J stopping in box junction Cricklewood Broadway
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: January 16, 2024, 8:16 pm
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--- Quote from: hotline link ---
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> Sure, here is the letter:
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2psRap2
>
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Thanks. They can't even use the correct term: Notice to Owner.
Yet another templated letter.
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