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#Post#: 128324--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Parking in Disabled Bay, Car Towed less than an hour
later
DIR By: ps117
Date: August 20, 2026, 7:01 am
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
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> A copy of your challenge, please.
>
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Below is what I emailed parking@lbbd.gov.uk after my car was
towed and I got it recovered.
I don't have a copy of the original appeal on the councils
website for the PCN. Unfortunately I was forced to pay this PCN
regardless of appealing as they were not allowing me to take the
car.
--- Quote ---
> Dear Sir/Madam,
>
> My car was parked outside of 25 Kennedy Road this morning
which contains a disabled bay. This bay had it's sign removed
over a year ago and since then roadworks were carried out to
attempt to remove the "Disabled" sign on the road.
>
> Residents have been parking and utilising this bay for months
including myself without any issues.
>
> Today at 9:08am I received a fine. As I was appealing it and
was on the phone to the council my car was towed and taken to
Creek Lane.
>
> I have had to pay £360 to take the car out which includes the
ticket I literally just appealed.
>
> I sent an email last year on 11/09/2025 to parking@lbbd.gov.uk
to inquire about parking in this space. You responded on
17/09/2025 confirming that you were aware of this removal
request for the bay.
>
> You have removed the "Disabled" Sign outside of number 25 and
also attempted to remove the signage on the bay. You have not
made it clear at all whether this bay can be used or not and you
have also not given out tickets or had anyone else's car towed
besides mine.
>
> I want an explanation as to what happened and what the status
is of this bay. I also want a full refund of my £360 as this is
a complete scam that you carried out.
>
> I have attached pictures of the location, you can see there on
the wall where the sign used to be, if you zoom in you can see
the holes are still there. You can also see the poor attempt of
removing the "Disabled" lane marking.
>
> Thanks
>
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#Post#: 128325--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Parking in Disabled Bay, Car Towed less than an hour
later
DIR By: Bulop
Date: August 20, 2026, 7:07 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
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> This PCN is still payable so if it was the one used for the
tow it could be wrong or perhaps as only yesterday the system
hasn't updated with payment.
>
> Can you list all the docs you were given at the pound.
>
>
HTML https://i.ibb.co/Q3bBmqRK/Screenshot-2026-08-20-at-12-53-28.png
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HTML https://i.ibb.co/1t55LVLF/Screenshot-2026-08-20-at-12-53-08.png
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HTML https://i.ibb.co/dJMpCwf3/Screenshot-2026-08-20-at-12-52-01.png
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Showing that on the website, if there was only one PCN, is
misleading and appeals have been won on that fact before. If
there are two PCNs, and the second one in the tow did not
contain the leaflet yet was issued, and the tow occurred on the
basis of the tow PCN (the 2nd), then it would have been deemed
to not be served and could get the tow PCN certainly cancelled.
#Post#: 128326--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Parking in Disabled Bay, Car Towed less than an hour
later
DIR By: ps117
Date: August 20, 2026, 7:08 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> This PCN is still payable so if it was the one used for the
tow it must surely be wrong.
>
> Can you list all the docs you were given at the pound.
>
>
HTML https://i.ibb.co/Q3bBmqRK/Screenshot-2026-08-20-at-12-53-28.png
>
HTML https://i.ibb.co/1t55LVLF/Screenshot-2026-08-20-at-12-53-08.png
>
HTML https://i.ibb.co/dJMpCwf3/Screenshot-2026-08-20-at-12-52-01.png
>
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Ok, this is perfect thanks for catching this!!!!
So this is the original PCN that was given. I just had a look
and the car pound made me pay the PCN number: BZ6801276A.
So the PCN I paid was not even this one! This must mean I was
given 2 tickets!!!
This is what I had to pay to take my car out.
HTML https://i.postimg.cc/bN8BVgDv/Screenshot-2026-08-20-at-12-40-06.png
HTML https://postimg.cc/4nLPmz1C
It looks liken they gave 2 PCN's back to back:
BZ71532542
BZ6801276A
#Post#: 128327--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Parking in Disabled Bay, Car Towed less than an hour
later
DIR By: Bulop
Date: August 20, 2026, 7:11 am
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--- Quote from: ps117 link ---
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> [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=11773.msg128323#msg128323
date=1787227242]
> This PCN is still payable so if it was the one used for the
tow it must surely be wrong.
>
> Can you list all the docs you were given at the pound.
>
>
HTML https://i.ibb.co/Q3bBmqRK/Screenshot-2026-08-20-at-12-53-28.png
>
HTML https://i.ibb.co/1t55LVLF/Screenshot-2026-08-20-at-12-53-08.png
>
HTML https://i.ibb.co/dJMpCwf3/Screenshot-2026-08-20-at-12-52-01.png
>
--- End Quote ---
Ok, this is perfect thanks for catching this!!!!
So this is the original PCN that was given. I just had a look
and the car pound made me pay the PCN number: BZ6801276A.
So the PCN I paid was not even this one! This must mean I was
given 2 tickets!!!
This is what I had to pay to take my car out.
HTML https://i.postimg.cc/bN8BVgDv/Screenshot-2026-08-20-at-12-40-06.png
HTML https://postimg.cc/4nLPmz1C
It looks liken they gave 2 PCN's back to back:
BZ71532542
BZ6801276A
[/quote]
You've hit the jackpot for sure, as if they did not put the
letter inside the PCN and left the yellow paper on just for
show, while issuing a 2nd PCN and using it for the tow, then the
PCN could not have been served.
#Post#: 128329--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Parking in Disabled Bay, Car Towed less than an hour
later
DIR By: Bulop
Date: August 20, 2026, 7:14 am
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Also, which PCN did you appeal? I assume the first one as you
said.
#Post#: 128330--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Parking in Disabled Bay, Car Towed less than an hour
later
DIR By: ps117
Date: August 20, 2026, 7:16 am
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--- Quote from: Bulop link ---
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> Also, which PCN did you appeal? I assume the first one as you
said.
>
--- End Quote ---
The PCN I appealed is the one served at 9:08AM and it's this
one: BZ71532542
So they must have snuck a 2nd PCN in prior to the tow, removed
it from the envelope as I did not see it or was served it at
all.
#Post#: 128331--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Parking in Disabled Bay, Car Towed less than an hour
later
DIR By: Bulop
Date: August 20, 2026, 7:20 am
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--- Quote from: ps117 link ---
>
> [quote author=Bulop link=topic=11773.msg128329#msg128329
date=1787228067]
> Also, which PCN did you appeal? I assume the first one as you
said.
>
--- End Quote ---
The PCN I appealed is the one served at 9:08AM and it's this
one: BZ71532542
So they must have snuck a 2nd PCN in prior to the tow, removed
it from the envelope as I did not see it or was served it at
all.
[/quote]
Either they did not print it, or place it in the envelope. That
means you did not recieve the letter inside the yellow PCN when
you got the doucuments at the pound, so it was not served to
you. Can you send a picture of the yellow PCN you recieved from
the pound as evidence, and if there are any more doucuments send
those too.
#Post#: 128333--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Parking in Disabled Bay, Car Towed less than an hour
later
DIR By: ps117
Date: August 20, 2026, 7:23 am
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At the car pound I was not served any other documents besides a
form giving info on how to appeal.
Below is the only PCN I got along with the 2 envelopes, one
being empty.
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HTML https://postimg.cc/yWymZ0hw
HTML https://i.postimg.cc/5jSBC8qd/IMG-6363.jpg
HTML https://postimg.cc/5jSBC8qd
#Post#: 128337--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Parking in Disabled Bay, Car Towed less than an hour
later
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 20, 2026, 7:37 am
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I presume you took the first PCN off the car so they had to
serve a second one to tow, that one being at 10:10.
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HTML https://i.ibb.co/20FSQHy7/Screenshot-2026-08-20-at-13-34-53.png
#Post#: 128339--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Parking in Disabled Bay, Car Towed less than an hour
later
DIR By: Bulop
Date: August 20, 2026, 7:41 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> I presume you took the first PCN off the car so they had to
serve a second one to tow, that one being at 10:10.
>
>
HTML https://i.ibb.co/xqLBTXp8/Screenshot-2026-08-20-at-13-34-18.png
>
>
HTML https://i.ibb.co/20FSQHy7/Screenshot-2026-08-20-at-13-34-53.png
>
>
--- End Quote ---
Would this be a continuous contravention as the OP did not move
the car.
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