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9x 50J Cumulative PCNs - Northgate, Northwood - Hillingdon
Council
DIR By: Findingaway
Date: August 17, 2026, 4:37 am
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Hello,
I am a single-income earner (30K-35K) facing 9 separate 50J
(Prohibited Right Turn) PCNs from Hillingdon Council at
Northgate, Northwood, totalling £1,440 at the full rate. I
challenged all of them individually through the council portal,
but they have issued formal Notices of Rejection for all nine
cases. I am preparing to take this to the London Tribunals but
desperately need your expertise on the viability of a cumulative
penalty defense, as well as a review of potential procedural
errors in the council's documentation.
The Timeline & Context:
First Alleged Contravention Date: 24/06/2026
Subsequent Contravention Dates: 8 further infractions between
25/06/2026 and 06/07/2026.
Date First PCN Arrived at my home: After 09/07/2026 (over a
14-day administrative delay from the first camera capture).
Date of Notices of Rejection:12th August
The Core Issues:
Lack of Current Evidence & Signage: The restriction sign was
heavily obscured by seasonal foliage growing from a private
property next to the junction. Because the council delayed
serving the first notice by more than two weeks, I didn't take
any pictures and when I went to check the branches had been cut
off.But from the videos/ evidence from the council, you can see
how much foliage there is.
For their notice of rejection/sign evidence, the council is
relying on stock library photographs taken on a completely
different date, when the trees were clear.
Procedural Unfairness / Cumulative Penalties: Because Hillingdon
Council’s automated portal forces motorists to challenge each
ticket in absolute isolation, I could not present a multi-ticket
chronological timeline during the initial representation stage.
Continuous Misunderstanding: I committed a single, continuous
mistake across these dates precisely because the council failed
to notify me of the first infraction in a timely manner. Had the
first notice arrived promptly, I would have immediately ceased
making the turn.
My Strategy & Questions for the Forum:
I am strongly considering paying the £80 discount rate for the
very first PCN (24 June) to limit financial exposure and prove
to the adjudicator that I accept the initial warning mechanism
of the law and that I take responsibility.
I then plan to appeal PCNs 2 through 9 at the London Tribunals
on the grounds of procedural failure and cumulative penalty
precedent, requesting that the adjudicator group them under a
single lead case.
Do the council's stock photos from an unverified date legally
satisfy their burden of proof for the 24 June to 6th of July
contraventions? Can anyone point me to specific London Tribunals
key case numbers regarding cumulative/sequential penalties
resulting from a mailing delay that I can quote to the
adjudicator?
I have uploaded the first PCN, the CCTV still, and the Notice of
Rejection below. Can anyone spot any technical flaws or a
"failure to consider" in Hillingdon's rejection wording? They
talk about two signs - The No Right Turn sign before the road
was obscured by foliage, which meant I did not see the
restriction. There is also a blue sign immediately before the
road indicating access for buses and bicycles. I accept that
this sign was present, but because I had not seen the No Right
Turn sign, I did not appreciate that I was prohibited from
turning/ my brain thought it was an informative blue sign hence
why I accept the mistake.
#Post#: 128002--------------------------------------------------
Re: 9x 50J Cumulative PCNs - Northgate, Northwood - Hillingdon
Council
DIR By: Findingaway
Date: August 17, 2026, 6:55 am
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Is there a reason why the post is not getting replies?
#Post#: 128005--------------------------------------------------
Re: 9x 50J Cumulative PCNs - Northgate, Northwood - Hillingdon
Council
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 17, 2026, 7:14 am
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Have patience.
It looks like you are on the right track.
I don't think an adjudicator will be impressed with videos if
they are all like this.
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#Post#: 128007--------------------------------------------------
Re: 9x 50J Cumulative PCNs - Northgate, Northwood - Hillingdon
Council
DIR By: Findingaway
Date: August 17, 2026, 7:45 am
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Apologies! I thought my response was not in line with the
guidelines. Correct - all videos are of the same nature. The
clearest video the council has is the following.
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#Post#: 128033--------------------------------------------------
Re: 9x 50J Cumulative PCNs - Northgate, Northwood - Hillingdon
Council
DIR By: ihateinjustice24
Date: August 17, 2026, 10:01 am
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Hi, I'm messaging to help bump this post. This happened to me.
Firstly as you've found. the appeal process is entirely
automated. You should build up as many disputes as you can and
go with the strongest. for example in my case their appeals
failed to take into account anything id mentioned at all. thats
a failure to consider. also look at the offences themselves.
check the signage is clear and compliant. look into what
constitutes as complaint as if in anyway they have failed to
comply you can write all of them off. prepare to prove that this
amount would cause financial hardship, as if that is actually
the case and all else fails you may be able to pay over time
instead of at once.
additionally note the timings of the appeal letters. in my case
they sent the notice of rejection letters prematurely which gave
me grounds to appeal. I'm currently waiting for my hearing and
was very lucky in that i had a member of this forum help take on
my case personally for me. i would've never had known to do any
of this otherwise.
#Post#: 128034--------------------------------------------------
Re: 9x 50J Cumulative PCNs - Northgate, Northwood - Hillingdon
Council
DIR By: Bulop
Date: August 17, 2026, 10:10 am
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--- Quote from: Findingaway link ---
>
>
HTML https://imgpile.com/m/dpQTx0A
>
HTML https://imgpile.com/m/DbOzPpx
>
HTML https://imgpile.com/m/QEx8qeL
>
HTML https://imgpile.com/m/xbIwOs7
>
> Hello,
> I am a single-income earner (30K-35K) facing 9 separate 50J
(Prohibited Right Turn) PCNs from Hillingdon Council at
Northgate, Northwood, totalling £1,440 at the full rate. I
challenged all of them individually through the council portal,
but they have issued formal Notices of Rejection for all nine
cases. I am preparing to take this to the London Tribunals but
desperately need your expertise on the viability of a cumulative
penalty defense, as well as a review of potential procedural
errors in the council's documentation.
>
> The Timeline & Context:
> First Alleged Contravention Date: 24/06/2026
> Subsequent Contravention Dates: 8 further infractions between
25/06/2026 and 06/07/2026.
> Date First PCN Arrived at my home: After 09/07/2026 (over a
14-day administrative delay from the first camera capture).
> Date of Notices of Rejection:12th August
>
> The Core Issues:
>
> Lack of Current Evidence & Signage: The restriction sign was
heavily obscured by seasonal foliage growing from a private
property next to the junction. Because the council delayed
serving the first notice by more than two weeks, I didn't take
any pictures and when I went to check the branches had been cut
off.But from the videos/ evidence from the council, you can see
how much foliage there is.
>
> For their notice of rejection/sign evidence, the council is
relying on stock library photographs taken on a completely
different date, when the trees were clear.
>
> Procedural Unfairness / Cumulative Penalties: Because
Hillingdon Council’s automated portal forces motorists to
challenge each ticket in absolute isolation, I could not present
a multi-ticket chronological timeline during the initial
representation stage.
>
> Continuous Misunderstanding: I committed a single, continuous
mistake across these dates precisely because the council failed
to notify me of the first infraction in a timely manner. Had the
first notice arrived promptly, I would have immediately ceased
making the turn.
>
> My Strategy & Questions for the Forum:
>
> I am strongly considering paying the £80 discount rate for the
very first PCN (24 June) to limit financial exposure and prove
to the adjudicator that I accept the initial warning mechanism
of the law and that I take responsibility.
>
> I then plan to appeal PCNs 2 through 9 at the London Tribunals
on the grounds of procedural failure and cumulative penalty
precedent, requesting that the adjudicator group them under a
single lead case.
>
> Do the council's stock photos from an unverified date legally
satisfy their burden of proof for the 24 June to 6th of July
contraventions? Can anyone point me to specific London Tribunals
key case numbers regarding cumulative/sequential penalties
resulting from a mailing delay that I can quote to the
adjudicator?
>
> I have uploaded the first PCN, the CCTV still, and the Notice
of Rejection below. Can anyone spot any technical flaws or a
"failure to consider" in Hillingdon's rejection wording? They
talk about two signs - The No Right Turn sign before the road
was obscured by foliage, which meant I did not see the
restriction. There is also a blue sign immediately before the
road indicating access for buses and bicycles. I accept that
this sign was present, but because I had not seen the No Right
Turn sign, I did not appreciate that I was prohibited from
turning/ my brain thought it was an informative blue sign hence
why I accept the mistake.
>
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Can you also send the back of the PCN letters, they are required
to state the grounds of appeal, if they are wrong this can be
enough to cancel the PCN due to a procedural impropriety. I have
seen Hillingdon fail to list the grounds correctly for bus lane
cases.
#Post#: 128040--------------------------------------------------
Re: 9x 50J Cumulative PCNs - Northgate, Northwood - Hillingdon
Council
DIR By: Findingaway
Date: August 17, 2026, 10:32 am
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--- Quote ---
> Can you also send the back of the PCN letters, they are
required to state the grounds of appeal, if they are wrong this
can be enough to cancel the PCN due to a procedural impropriety.
I have seen Hillingdon fail to list the grounds correctly for
bus lane cases.
--- End Quote ---
Hello - all PCNs at the back have only the section "how to pay"
and "making representation". There are no further details on the
PCN besides what I shared and they are all identical in their
wording.
#Post#: 128042--------------------------------------------------
Re: 9x 50J Cumulative PCNs - Northgate, Northwood - Hillingdon
Council
DIR By: Bulop
Date: August 17, 2026, 10:40 am
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Send the back side of one of them please.
#Post#: 128044--------------------------------------------------
Re: 9x 50J Cumulative PCNs - Northgate, Northwood - Hillingdon
Council
DIR By: Findingaway
Date: August 17, 2026, 10:43 am
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--- Quote from: Bulop link ---
>
> Send the back side of one of them please.
>
--- End Quote ---
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All of them have the same front and back.
#Post#: 128045--------------------------------------------------
Re: 9x 50J Cumulative PCNs - Northgate, Northwood - Hillingdon
Council
DIR By: Findingaway
Date: August 17, 2026, 10:46 am
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--- Quote from: ihateinjustice24 link ---
>
> Hi, I'm messaging to help bump this post. This happened to me.
Firstly as you've found. the appeal process is entirely
automated. You should build up as many disputes as you can and
go with the strongest. for example in my case their appeals
failed to take into account anything id mentioned at all. thats
a failure to consider. also look at the offences themselves.
check the signage is clear and compliant. look into what
constitutes as complaint as if in anyway they have failed to
comply you can write all of them off. prepare to prove that this
amount would cause financial hardship, as if that is actually
the case and all else fails you may be able to pay over time
instead of at once.
> additionally note the timings of the appeal letters. in my
case they sent the notice of rejection letters prematurely which
gave me grounds to appeal. I'm currently waiting for my hearing
and was very lucky in that i had a member of this forum help
take on my case personally for me. i would've never had known to
do any of this otherwise.
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks!What I find odd is that they completely ignored my point
about the foliage covering the “No Right Turn” sign.
As a driver coming up to the road, I’m obviously going to be
looking out for oncoming traffic, pedestrians, cyclists etc. I’m
not going to be scanning around for another sign further ahead
if I can’t see a “No Right Turn” sign on approach.
I just find it strange that they’ve basically dismissed that
point given the evidence that they have provided, because surely
the visibility of the sign is pretty important here. If the sign
is hidden by foliage, how is a driver reasonably supposed to
know they need to look for another sign before entering? This is
dangerous, as you would have already committed to the turn.
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