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52M Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of
vehicle
DIR By: hectic_Lift
Date: August 14, 2026, 5:06 am
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Hi, please see below PCN link. Would really appreciate your
guidance on appeal. I can't see signs on picture clearly. If
possible would like to avoid jointing the mugged club.
Thanks for your time.
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Re: 52M Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of
vehicle
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 14, 2026, 6:10 am
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Here is your approach:-
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/CDyG9qM8SbGsv7Fp6
GSV is way out of date here (2019
If one looks, however, at the Belmont Road crossroads here in
GSV, it shows the two sidestreets are restricted. Clearly this
is a Low Traffic Neighbourhood. The PCN photo shows you passing
the same sign as you see here -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/pRreQDYmyyWw5RnZ7
Were you following satnav ? Please tell us your journey up to
this point.
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Re: 52M Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of
vehicle
DIR By: hectic_Lift
Date: August 14, 2026, 6:14 am
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Thanks for checking.
Yes was using satnav - returning from Rainham. I do not live in
London so followed satnav. Awaiting your instruction.
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Re: 52M Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of
vehicle
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 14, 2026, 6:28 am
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--- Quote from: hectic_Lift link ---
>
> Thanks for checking.
>
> Yes was using satnav - returning from Rainham. I do not live
in London so followed satnav. Awaiting your instruction.
>
--- End Quote ---
It's fatal to use a satnav in London, because they are always
out-of-date, and take you into back streets rather than keeping
you on the main roads. I'm guessing you came along West Green
Road A504 and needed to turn right into Belmont Road, but the
satnav used Langham Road to give you a short cut. There is this
sign where one turns from W Green Road into Langham Rd : -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/1EcjmbTmY1mabGCz8
At the moment, I see nothing to base representations on in
relation to t he contravention itself, but recent
ly quite a few PCNs have been cancelled at London Tribunals
because the council have put incorrect information on the PCN
and also on their website pages about PCNs. HOwever, this
involves risking the full £160, no discount option. Having said
that, that is the maximum amout one would have to pay, there are
no additional costs whatever. SO wait a bit to see what is
suggested, but don't miss the deadline on the PCN for the
discount if you are minded to pay it.
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Re: 52M Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of
vehicle
DIR By: hectic_Lift
Date: August 14, 2026, 6:44 am
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yes that's right I took left as guided by satnav and could not
see signs clearly at 10:22pm. As GSV is out of date you
mentioned anything I can do to challenge? £80 seems excessive.
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Re: 52M Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of
vehicle
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 14, 2026, 7:55 am
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OK I've now seen the video, which shows you turning left into
Langham Road. The restriction signs that are visible are for the
other direction so the signs you are alleged to have driven past
are not shown. This could form the basis for your
representations.
In addition to this, the signs appear sideways-on on your
approach and there is no advance warning of the restriction:-
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/1EcjmbTmY1mabGCz8
So this is winnable. I have seen quite a few successful appeals
for poor sign positioning now, so you could appeal at London
Tribunals with confidence. Of course you must risk the full PCN
penalty
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Re: 52M Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of
vehicle
DIR By: hectic_Lift
Date: August 14, 2026, 8:58 am
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many thanks for your time to check and it sounds positive. I
will challenge them online. what exact to say apart from your
comments on no advance sign and not visible? anything on GSV out
of date?
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Re: 52M Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of
vehicle
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: August 14, 2026, 10:35 am
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All PCN please.
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