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Re: Hillingdon Council Bus Lane - 8 Seconds over bus lane start
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DIR By: Bulop
Date: August 17, 2026, 12:19 pm
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--- Quote from: miirder link ---
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> Hi all,
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> Thanks for all of your replies, how exactly do we proceed?
>
> Regards
>
> K
>
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Write and send an appeal to the authority. For example:
Dear Hillingdon Council,
I am appealing this PCN on the ground that the contravention did
not occur. Your video footage does not show any upright signage
being passed. Additionally, your Penalty Charge Notice is
flawed, in the fact that “the PCN is paid”, not being a ground
of appeal listed in the London Local Authorities Act 1996, and
the fact that you describe the Enforcement Notice will be
served, not may be served. You also list the “vehicle was being
used without my consent” as a ground of appeal, which is also
false, rather it should be that the person was not the driver at
the time, as the keeper may have authorised the driver to drive
the vehicle in the ground of appeal according to the
legislation. These critical mistakes, result in a procedural
impropriety. The PCN must be cancelled as a result. Please
provide the certification for the camera used which complies
with the London Local Authorities Act 1996 if you do not accept
this appeal.
#Post#: 128068--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hillingdon Council Bus Lane - 8 Seconds over bus lane start
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DIR By: Bulop
Date: August 17, 2026, 12:36 pm
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It doesn’t have be as detailed as mine, as they are guaranteed
to reject it, so it can be as simple as:
I am appealing this PCN on the ground that the contravention did
not occur. Your video footage does not show any upright signage
being passed. I strictly require that you provide certification
for the camera used in compliance with the London Local
Authorities Act 1996. If you cannot I expect that this PCN is
cancelled.
#Post#: 128092--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hillingdon Council Bus Lane - 8 Seconds over bus lane start
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DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: August 17, 2026, 5:06 pm
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--- Quote from: miirder link ---
>
> Hi all,
>
> Thanks for all of your replies, how exactly do we proceed?
>
> Regards
>
> K
>
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Not as per the posts below.
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/1996/9/schedule/1/enacted
#Post#: 128093--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hillingdon Council Bus Lane - 8 Seconds over bus lane start
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DIR By: Bulop
Date: August 17, 2026, 5:14 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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> [quote author=miirder link=topic=11724.msg128055#msg128055
date=1786985029]
> Hi all,
>
> Thanks for all of your replies, how exactly do we proceed?
>
> Regards
>
> K
>
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Not as per the posts below.
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/1996/9/schedule/1/enacted
[/quote]
What? If you check the section under admissibility of certain
evidence you see that they need to be using a device authorised
by Secretary of State so should provide a certificate for it.
#Post#: 128363--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hillingdon Council Bus Lane - 8 Seconds over bus lane start
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DIR By: miirder
Date: August 20, 2026, 11:07 am
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What exactly do I put as my response to challenge it then? Seems
to be conflicting answers. Thanks
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Re: Hillingdon Council Bus Lane - 8 Seconds over bus lane start
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DIR By: Bulop
Date: August 21, 2026, 7:21 am
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--- Quote from: miirder link ---
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> What exactly do I put as my response to challenge it then?
Seems to be conflicting answers. Thanks
>
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Select "there was no contravention" as a ground if available on
the website.
The alleged contravention did not occur as the video does not
show any upright signage allegedly passed. Additionally, your
Penalty Charge Notice is flawed which results in a procedural
impropriety. Please provide the camera certification for the
device used to record the offence. In light of this, please
cancel the PCN.
#Post#: 128436--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hillingdon Council Bus Lane - 8 Seconds over bus lane start
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DIR By: peodude
Date: August 21, 2026, 9:00 am
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I would also add that within 8 seconds is de minimus. Raising
the 8 seconds in the appeal gives it a chance of being cancelled
at this stage, avoiding the additional hassle if possible.
#Post#: 128437--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hillingdon Council Bus Lane - 8 Seconds over bus lane start
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DIR By: Bulop
Date: August 21, 2026, 9:11 am
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--- Quote from: peodude link ---
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> I would also add that within 8 seconds is de minimus. Raising
the 8 seconds in the appeal gives it a chance of being cancelled
at this stage, avoiding the additional hassle if possible.
>
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That’s true as well, although Hillingdon recently have been
rejecting completely valid appeals too just for intimidation.
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Re: Hillingdon Council Bus Lane - 8 Seconds over bus lane start
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DIR By: Bulop
Date: August 22, 2026, 10:01 am
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The discount period ends in a few days, so you should submit
Reps as soon as possible.
#Post#: 129100--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hillingdon Council Bus Lane - 8 Seconds over bus lane start
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DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: August 28, 2026, 6:57 am
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--- Quote from: Bulop link ---
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> [quote author=miirder link=topic=11724.msg128363#msg128363
date=1787242047]
> What exactly do I put as my response to challenge it then?
Seems to be conflicting answers. Thanks
>
--- End Quote ---
Select "there was no contravention" as a ground if available on
the website.
The alleged contravention did not occur as the video does not
show any upright signage allegedly passed. Additionally, your
Penalty Charge Notice is flawed which results in a procedural
impropriety. Please provide the camera certification for the
device used to record the offence. In light of this, please
cancel the PCN.
[/quote]
Procedural impropriety is NOT a ground and it is not strategic
to remind them they must have a VCA certificate. Just crack on
in this mode if you want to give them several goals.
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/1996/9/schedule/1/enacted
2(4) (a) are the grounds as previously stated.
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Website: this needs to be a screenshot AND try to select a
ground under the box by entering the correct grounds. And
screenshot that too. YOU NEED TO ENTER THE GROUNDS AS STATED ON
THE PCN TO SHOW PREJUDICE NOT THAT THIS IS RELEVANT. If this
were mine, I would try to enter both the correct grounds and
those stated on the PCN.
Bus lane reasons
These are the common reasons relating to bus lanes which we
receive queries for
Select a reason:
I am a Blue Badge holder and I was looking for disabled parking
I did not realise I was in a bus lane
I entered the bus lane to avoid congestion
I stopped in the bus lane due to my medical condition
I was avoiding an accident
I was following a diversion / was directed into the bus lane
I was following my sat-nav / I was lost / I'm not from the area
I was in the bus lane, but it wasn't in operation at the time
I was in the bus lane, but not for a substantial distance
I was making way for an emergency vehicle
I was picking up / dropping off a passenger at the train station
I was picking up / dropping off a passenger
I was taking advice from others
I was unaware of the rules
I was unaware that couriers were not permitted in the bus lane
I was unfamiliar with the term "Bus Gate"
My vehicle is a taxi
My vehicle type is permitted to drive in bus lanes
There was a road closure so the bus lane was not in operation
There was nowhere to turn around and avoid the bus gate
There were no buses in the bus lane at the time
Other reasons
Non bus lane specific reasons that will appear in Bus Lane
context
Select a reason:
A friend / family member recently passed away
I didn't see / understand the signage
I have already paid the PCN
I was not at the location on the day
I was not the driver
I was not the owner / keeper of the vehicle
I was unaware that a PCN had been issued as I've been away
My vehicle had broken down
My vehicle was cloned
My vehicle was stolen
The owner of the vehicle has passed away
The vehicle was on hire to someone else
None of the above
If none of the above reasons apply, and you wish to challenge
your PCN, please select below:
Select a reason:
Any other reason
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