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       West Midlands Police - Operation Snap. Mobile phone use
   DIR By: Matty88
       Date: August 12, 2026, 3:02 am
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       It sounds like excuses but phone fell out of cradle and when I
       was stopped at red traffic lights I thought I would put nav back
       on and put phone back in cradle. Looked out the window and an
       Uber eats rider on ebike had filmed me and sent it to operation
       snap.
       Technically illegal but feels unjust, however I would like to
       see the evidence in case it's poor but it could be   damning.
       Already responded to the NIP to say I was the driver and now I
       have the offer I have requested the evidence via email.
       What's my best course of action now please? Do I accept and roll
       over and take the 6 points and 200 quid or if I elected to go to
       court to get evidence could I accept the same offer later?
       #Post#: 127593--------------------------------------------------
       Re: West Midlands Police - Operation Snap. Mobile phone use
   DIR By: BertB
       Date: August 12, 2026, 4:18 am
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       You probably should have requested footage or image stills (to
       assist with identifying the driver) before you named yourself.
       Now you have there is no obligation to provide you with evidence
       unless you opt for a court hearing.
       You need to be a bit more open with us about what you did with
       the phone, otherwise it is hard to advise.
       From what you describe, you turned maps back on and put the
       phone back in the cradle, I'm guessing you held this in your
       hand while looking down, tapping at the screen when sat at the
       lights?
       Why did the phone fall out of the cradle? And why wouldn't it
       fall out of it again as soon as you started moving?
       #Post#: 127595--------------------------------------------------
       Re: West Midlands Police - Operation Snap. Mobile phone use
   DIR By: Matty88
       Date: August 12, 2026, 4:57 am
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       It's a magnetic cradle but if you don't line it up perfectly it
       can fall off. I waited before I came to a stop before putting it
       back on. Yes just put maps back on. I may have had to put the
       destination back in...I think.
       If I said option B and asked to go to court, whats the
       likelihood of being offered the 200 quid option and 6 points
       before it gets to court? I'd just like to see the evidence in
       case it's not strong enough
       Thanks for replying by the way
       #Post#: 127599--------------------------------------------------
       Re: West Midlands Police - Operation Snap. Mobile phone use
   DIR By: 666
       Date: August 12, 2026, 5:27 am
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       --- Quote from: Matty88 link ---
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       > If I said option B and asked to go to court, whats the
       likelihood of being offered the 200 quid option and 6 points
       before it gets to court?
       >
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       Likelihood - none whatever.
       At court, if you're found guilty it will still mean six-points,
       but an income-related fine, surcharge, and costs. You won't see
       much change from £1,000.
       #Post#: 127600--------------------------------------------------
       Re: West Midlands Police - Operation Snap. Mobile phone use
   DIR By: Matty88
       Date: August 12, 2026, 5:31 am
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       Thank you. Bumming it is then. Cheers for the help
       #Post#: 127698--------------------------------------------------
       Re: West Midlands Police - Operation Snap. Mobile phone use
   DIR By: BertB
       Date: August 13, 2026, 3:52 am
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       Yep, from what you have told us unfortunately that is the likely
       outcome. Just putting it back in the cradle you might have been
       able to argue down to not in proper control. But the way it is
       written, the only choice you probably have is lubed or Option B,
       dry.
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