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       #Post#: 13131--------------------------------------------------
       Debt Recovery Plus/Initial Parking PCN received for £170.
       Pavilion Square, Scarborough. Unpaid Tariff Time
   DIR By: Fowler1981
       Date: December 31, 2023, 8:19 am
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       Appear have parked in a private carpark on what appears to be
       the 23rd October (going by the Parking Charge Date on the Debt
       Recovery Plus letter). She thinks she was there for less than 30
       minutes.
       The first letter she received from Debt Recovery Plus is dated
       27th November. She messaged them on their online portal on the
       4th December and has received no reply. She then got a second
       letter from them dated 18th December. She then called them on
       the 20th December and was on hold for 29 minutes before giving
       up. She called again on 27th December and after 11 minutes it
       said she could leave her details in order to save her place in
       the queue and they will call her back. They didn’t and still
       haven’t called her back.
       Now, am I right in thinking £170 seems excessive to be charged
       and isn’t there supposed to be a cheaper option if paid in a
       certain amount of time?
       I’ve attached the 1st letter front and back, 2nd letter front
       and back and the pre-legal action letter that came with the
       second letter front and back. The back of that one is blank.
       I’ve also attached the GSV link for the car park.
       Any help on this would be appreciated.
       Thanks.
  HTML https://www.instantstreetview.com/@54.279844,-0.404247,47.35h,-6.09p,0.33z,U91KhhKolDpOI0alHFNwpQ
       #Post#: 13145--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Debt Recovery Plus/Initial Parking PCN received for £170.
       Pavilion Square, Scarborough. Unpaid Tariff Time
   DIR By: Nosy Parker
       Date: December 31, 2023, 1:40 pm
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       So far, whoever “she” is has done everything wrong that it’s
       possible to do wrong short (thankfully) of paying these
       scammers.
       But now’s the opportunity to start doing things right.
       First of all, delete all those images that give away
       confidential information to prying eyes (such as reference
       numbers) and replace them with externally hosted scans of the
       front and back of the original PCN (parking charge notice or
       notice to keeper or whatever it calls itself). Redact the
       keeper’s name, address, vehicle number and any reference but
       leave all dates showing. Post them on an external site like
       www.imgur.com and give us the links. Then we can start giving
       sensible advice. In the meantime nobody should attempt to
       contact DRP who are toothless scaremongers with no enforcement
       capabilities.
       #Post#: 13185--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Debt Recovery Plus/Initial Parking PCN received for £170.
       Pavilion Square, Scarborough. Unpaid Tariff Time
   DIR By: guest46
       Date: January 2, 2024, 1:47 am
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       EVERYTHING in writing and keep copies.
       #Post#: 13209--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Debt Recovery Plus/Initial Parking PCN received for £170.
       Pavilion Square, Scarborough. Unpaid Tariff Time
   DIR By: Nosy Parker
       Date: January 2, 2024, 8:19 am
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       Looks like [member=1082]Fowler1981[/member] has lost interest in
       their own thread.  So why are we bothering?
       #Post#: 13217--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Debt Recovery Plus/Initial Parking PCN received for £170.
       Pavilion Square, Scarborough. Unpaid Tariff Time
   DIR By: Fowler1981
       Date: January 2, 2024, 10:36 am
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       Please accept my apologies guys, after New Years Eve, yesterday
       was a complete write off, I was dying and didn't even get out of
       bed. Even the cats walked in the bedroom, looked at me and then
       walked out again in disgust. And I've been at work since 6am
       this morning.
       So, first of all I can't see where to delete them photo's I
       posted. I did do them via Imgur and then copied and pasted the
       link onto the post.
       And secondly she's received another letter off Debt Recovery
       Plus today which I will attach below.
       These three letters are all she's had. Should there have been
       one from Initial Parking to start with?
       Apologies again everyone and any replies really are appreciated.
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/R2RPVWs.jpg
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/d8O7Aoc.jpg
       #Post#: 13218--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Debt Recovery Plus/Initial Parking PCN received for £170.
       Pavilion Square, Scarborough. Unpaid Tariff Time
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: January 2, 2024, 10:39 am
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       I've removed the images from your opening post that contained
       personal info for you.
       #Post#: 13233--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Debt Recovery Plus/Initial Parking PCN received for £170.
       Pavilion Square, Scarborough. Unpaid Tariff Time
   DIR By: Nosy Parker
       Date: January 2, 2024, 9:07 pm
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       She (whoever she is) can use those DRP letters for toilet paper.
       They don’t tell us anything that will help us tell you (or her)
       how to beat this parking ticket. Please ask her to provide the
       actual parking ticket. For DRP to be sending all this waste
       paper there must have been an actual parking ticket (probably
       called a “parking charge notice” or “notice to keeper” or some
       such) from an actual parking company.
       #Post#: 13234--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Debt Recovery Plus/Initial Parking PCN received for £170.
       Pavilion Square, Scarborough. Unpaid Tariff Time
   DIR By: Fowler1981
       Date: January 3, 2024, 12:35 am
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       The letter above and the two that have been deleted are the only
       letters she has received. Initial Parking appear to be the ones
       that manage the car park but we haven’t received anything from
       them, only the three from Debt Recovery Plus. We’ve typed the
       details into the Initial Parking website and nothing came up
       about this charge whatsoever.
       I’m currently at work and on my phone so I can’t redo them
       letters that were deleted until this afternoon, Imgur works
       differently on my phone compared to the laptop and doesn’t allow
       me to do anything with images.
       #Post#: 13239--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Debt Recovery Plus/Initial Parking PCN received for £170.
       Pavilion Square, Scarborough. Unpaid Tariff Time
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: January 3, 2024, 5:14 am
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       If you don't have, or never received, the initial Parking Charge
       Notice, then you could submit a Subject Access Request
  HTML https://legalbeagles.info/library/guides_and_letters/court/subject-access-request/<br
       />to the Data Protection Officer at Initial Parking
       (mailto:privacy@initialparking.co.uk
       privacy@initialparking.co.uk), to get copies. The keeper will
       probably need to attach some documents to prove they are who
       they say they are, such as a redacted copy of the vehicle's V5C
       document.
       #Post#: 13242--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Debt Recovery Plus/Initial Parking PCN received for £170.
       Pavilion Square, Scarborough. Unpaid Tariff Time
   DIR By: Nosy Parker
       Date: January 3, 2024, 6:17 am
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       Please don’t waste your time uploading DRP wastepaper. It’s of
       no use to us.
       If you (or she) haven’t  got the parking ticket, whichever of
       you was the addressee of the wastepaper (and presumably the
       registered keeper of the vehicle) should send the following
       email to
       privacy@initialparking.co.uk
       ‘Dear Sir
       Parking charge reference [        ].
       I have attached a letter from Debt Recovery Plus Ltd (“DRP”)
       purporting to relate to a parking charge issued to me by your
       company. I have no record of receiving any such parking charge
       notice. Please send me a copy of any such notice(s) that you
       have issued to me by name or in relation to the car referenced
       in the letter from DRP.
       This is a subject access request and I have attached the V5C
       registration document for the relevant car to show that I am the
       correct data subject.
       Yours faithfully’
       If neither of you was the registered keeper of the vehicle come
       back for more advice now. Otherwise come back for more advice
       once you’ve uploaded the redacted parking ticket(s) received
       from Initial which should take no more than a month.
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