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       #Post#: 126879--------------------------------------------------
       Royal Free Hospital - Appeal on ticket 
   DIR By: Lucygl
       Date: August 5, 2026, 4:26 am
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       Hi all,
       Wanted some advice on a parking ticket my partner received from
       “Parkingeye Ltd” - he took me to the Royal Free hospital on 4th
       June for a pregnancy scan. Knowing what a nightmare the Royal
       Free is with parking, we arrived an hour early to attempt to
       wait/ find a spot. We sat in a queue of cars for 50 minutes
       there were 4 cars in front waiting to get in to the car park
       during this time with no movement - before I had to jump out of
       the car to not miss my appointment, and my partner then drove
       off to look for an alternative parking spot locally where he
       would then walk back to the hospital to meet me (hoping he’d
       make it on time for the scan) which he just about done.
       He appealed the ticket online and showed them his alternative
       parking space ticket, to which they have declined.
       I’m not sure how we can further appeal this as at the time we
       had no idea we’d be sent a ticket and didn’t take photos of the
       car to show we were in a queue but this ticket feels
       unreasonable and unfair considering at no point was he parked
       up.
       Any advice or guidance would be appreciated on this.
       Thank you
       Lucy
       #Post#: 126908--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Royal Free Hospital - Appeal on ticket 
   DIR By: Dave65
       Date: August 5, 2026, 8:39 am
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       Were you inside the car park waiting?
       ie: after the entry barrier or camera point.
       What did you put in your appeal?
       Was the driver identified?
       Can you post up a copy of the PPN with personal details redacted
       but leave dates.
       #Post#: 126926--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Royal Free Hospital - Appeal on ticket 
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: August 5, 2026, 9:55 am
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       We definitely need to see the PCN - it probably uses a 'time on
       site' arguement.
       Might be an idea to post up your appeal and the reply from PE.
       We should be able to use the CME open letter to build a robust
       appeal for POPLA.
       #Post#: 126929--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Royal Free Hospital - Appeal on ticket 
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: August 5, 2026, 10:11 am
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       We can also throw in the argument that even if a contract was
       created (which will be denied as no parking took place), that
       contract was itself frustrated due to the traffic.
       If you haven't already contact PALS at the hospital and exert
       some pressure on them to intervene.
       #Post#: 126931--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Royal Free Hospital - Appeal on ticket 
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: August 5, 2026, 10:18 am
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       --- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
       >
       > We can also throw in the argument that even if a contract was
       created (which will be denied as no parking took place), that
       contract was itself frustrated due to the traffic.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It could also be argued that, having formed the contract, it was
       the parking operator who was in breach of the contract since
       they failed to provide a space for the driver's vehicle - the
       operator therefore failed to keep their side of the deal.
       #Post#: 126943--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Royal Free Hospital - Appeal on ticket 
   DIR By: Lucygl
       Date: August 5, 2026, 11:31 am
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       [REMOVED BY MOD]
       Please see attached. You can see it was not parked or in the car
       park all they have an image of is the car entering towards the
       car park and then leaving 50 minutes later. We also stated we
       were happy to share a copy of the alternative parking ticket to
       which they responded “it’s with a different company so wouldn’t
       make a difference” over the phone and to refer back to their
       response on 17th July.
       #Post#: 127102--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Royal Free Hospital - Appeal on ticket 
   DIR By: Anarchist
       Date: August 7, 2026, 2:05 am
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       I had a PCN from RFH in almost identical circumstances some time
       ago.
       I called the PALS office at the hospital and they cancelled the
       notice (they had a person employed specifically to resolve
       parking issues).
       The ANPR camera is situated before you enter the car park, so
       for a few years the hospital had to employ security guards to
       prevent drivers passing the camera until there was a space
       available. I haven’t been there for a while so that may have
       changed.
       An alternative for future reference may be to use the Premier
       Inn car park nearby.
       #Post#: 127103--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Royal Free Hospital - Appeal on ticket 
   DIR By: RichardW
       Date: August 7, 2026, 2:13 am
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       You should really redact name and address and PCN no from the
       NTK...
       What did you husband say in his original e-mail?  The notice was
       issued too late to transfer liability to the keeper, but I
       suspect he has identified himself as the driver?
       #Post#: 127121--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Royal Free Hospital - Appeal on ticket 
   DIR By: Lucygl
       Date: August 7, 2026, 5:10 am
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       Oh Thanks. Could a moderator please delete the original post
       with the link and I will re attach without details.
       #Post#: 127122--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Royal Free Hospital - Appeal on ticket 
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: August 7, 2026, 5:18 am
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       Done
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