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#Post#: 126865--------------------------------------------------
PCN: Birmingham City Council, code 01 parked in a restricted
street during prescribed hours, Lionel Street
DIR By: Snowynight
Date: August 4, 2026, 6:50 pm
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Got a PCN on windscreen around 13:40 for parking on the single
yellow line outside the Ibis Hotel at 65 Lionel Street on
Sunday, from Birmingham City Council - code 01 parked in a
restricted street during prescribed hours:
HTML https://i.ibb.co/LdDm4VXz/IMG-9144.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/VXf0BFN/IMG-9141.jpg
Based on the map from the council website
HTML https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/20109/parking/413/street_parking,<br
/>Lionel street is in the Jewellery quarter zone. And from
HTML https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/20109/parking/413/street_parking/4,<br
/>the hours of operation are Monday to Saturday - 8:00am to
6:00pm.
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HTML https://i.ibb.co/PscYbQmJ/IMG-9152.png
There is no clear sign on the street or at the road entrance.
The driver checked the parking metre nearby which also shows the
same hours and no charge on Sundays (see the photo). There are
parking bays but were all full at the time. Based on the above
info, I think it’s outside the hours of operation and should be
free to park on the single yellow line on Sunday? What do you
think?
How should I appeal? Thanks in advance.
#Post#: 126877--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Birmingham City Council, code 01 parked in a restricted
street during prescribed hours, Lionel Street
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 5, 2026, 4:10 am
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What you've given us are the charging hours for parking bays in
the Jewellery Quarter. The single yellow lines may be restricted
the whole week. You need to find the entrance sign to the zone
where you entered the zone.
#Post#: 126882--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Birmingham City Council, code 01 parked in a restricted
street during prescribed hours, Lionel Street
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 5, 2026, 5:04 am
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Birmingham is deceptive with its CPZs and really should be
forced to change its website.
I can't recall if we've been successful in challenging a yellow
line PCN on this but if you want to punt £35 you can have a go.
This CPZ is Mon-Sun 8am-6pm so also check your route for the
entry sign or signs - they must be clear.
It says 'Everyday' which may be wrong wording.
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#Post#: 126894--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Birmingham City Council, code 01 parked in a restricted
street during prescribed hours, Lionel Street
DIR By: Snowynight
Date: August 5, 2026, 6:40 am
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Thank you!
Hm, it is confusing/deceptive! The driver entered the zone the
night before (when it was dark and the restrictions were not
active) but can't remember the exact road. Car was parked in a
bay on Branston Street.
On Sunday the driver looked for signs on Lionel Street but there
seems none (only those "pay at machine" signs). The prominent
"No Charge on Sunday" text on the parking metre creates a visual
trap, so the driver deduced that there is no Sunday parking
constraint!
Would like to try a representation. How should we write it?
Thanks
#Post#: 126895--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Birmingham City Council, code 01 parked in a restricted
street during prescribed hours, Lionel Street
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 5, 2026, 6:58 am
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I'll help you draft it.
You say you were in a bay but the contravention is for a yellow
line? Did you move the car and why?
You've blanked the detals so we can't check the council pics.
The traffic signs manual warns about confusion:
14.1.14. As the times shown on the entry signs generally
coincide with those applying to
parking places as well as to the yellow line waiting
restrictions, drivers might take signs at
on‑street parking places as a reminder of the times when
waiting is prohibited. This would be
confusing where parking places operate at different times (e.g.
24‑hour permit parking in a zone
that does not operate for 24 hours). In such cases, conventional
signing might be preferable to
the introduction of a zone.
#Post#: 126899--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Birmingham City Council, code 01 parked in a restricted
street during prescribed hours, Lionel Street
DIR By: Snowynight
Date: August 5, 2026, 7:25 am
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Thanks.
The car was parked in a bay on a different street (Branston
street) overnight as the accommodation was there. On Sunday it
was moved to Lionel Street on a single yellow line as the driver
was visiting the city centre area.
Can access and share the council pictures later if needed.
The manual looks encouraging!
#Post#: 126954--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Birmingham City Council, code 01 parked in a restricted
street during prescribed hours, Lionel Street
DIR By: Snowynight
Date: August 5, 2026, 1:15 pm
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Please see main images from the CEO below:
HTML https://i.ibb.co/LDpqjCM9/IMG-9156.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/C3QFDHYT/IMG-9157.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/jZxhmmRX/IMG-9158.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/KxZ0HW1G/IMG-9159.jpg
#Post#: 126958--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Birmingham City Council, code 01 parked in a restricted
street during prescribed hours, Lionel Street
DIR By: tincombe
Date: August 5, 2026, 2:33 pm
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Don't get your hopes up too high, the manual is guidance in this
respect!
The driver is either correct in that the waiting restriction
mirrors the parking bay times or they're not.
It's either correctly signed(remotely from the location) or it's
not.
The driver can assert that they're correct and test the council,
for free inside the 14-day period, and see what follows.
Are you the registered keeper with current DVLA details?
#Post#: 126966--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Birmingham City Council, code 01 parked in a restricted
street during prescribed hours, Lionel Street
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 5, 2026, 3:35 pm
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I think their website map is seriously misleading but I don't
think we've got as far as the tribunal on this before.
The size of the zone is a factor.
Ans was the car moved within the zone?
#Post#: 126974--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN: Birmingham City Council, code 01 parked in a restricted
street during prescribed hours, Lionel Street
DIR By: Snowynight
Date: August 5, 2026, 4:36 pm
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Thanks. Yes, the driver moved within the zone. There was no sign
on Lionel Street, so the driver had to check the council
website, which is misleading.
And yes, I am the keeper.
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