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SANDWELL - Contravention 46 Stopped Where Prohibited (Red
Route), Wolverhampton Road Oldbury
DIR By: uksiuk
Date: August 4, 2026, 6:25 pm
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Date of Contravention - 17/07/2026
My car was recorded by CCTV outside my home after I had reversed
out of my garage and was waiting for a gap in the traffic to
start my journey.
An image on the PCN shows that the way was not clear for me to
join the traffic.
The CCTV camera which recorded the alleged contravention seems
to be mounted in a vehicle positioned on the carriageway so as
to be preventing me from joining the traffic flow at the time of
the video recording.
During the entire time of the video recording I was behind the
wheel of the car with the engine running awaiting a gap in the
traffic.
I would maintain that I was in the middle of manoeuvring from my
garage onto the carriageway to commence a journey and that it is
impossible to execute such a manoeuvre without being stationary
at some point.
The section of the road where i live is notorious for many
accidents. It is for this reason I choose not to reverse off my
property directly onto the carriageway but rather reverse
partially onto the verge adjacent to the red route in order to
join the traffic in a safer fashion. The PCN shows my car in
this stationary position on the verge. In December 2023 on the
carriageway running past my home I was hit by another driver in
a no fault collision and my car was written off.
I phoned the Sandwell contact number on the PCN and explained
the situation as above. The agent maintained that because I was
partially on the verge that I was at fault but said that I had
the right to appeal. This attitude didn't fill me with much
confidence.
This is the link to the PCN:
HTML https://imgpile.com/p/YyYvKnZ
HTML https://imgpile.com/p/YyYvKnZ
As the location is directly outside my home I'd rather not post
a link to the incident site on google maps but if this is
essential please let me know and I'll add a link to the thread.
I really appreciate you taking a look at this.
#Post#: 126876--------------------------------------------------
Re: SANDWELL - Contravention 46 Stopped Where Prohibited (Red
Route), Wolverhampton Road Oldbury
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 5, 2026, 4:03 am
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Sorry, but we need to see the location in GSV, and the video to
give advice.
A recent adjudication at London Tribunals for a London Red-Route
case was won because a Red Route must be signed as well as
having the road markings, for CCTV to be used to enforce. If
this is not the case, the contravention can only be enforced by
a CEO at the roadside : -
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/2260147562-definition-of-a-red-route-that-allows-postal-pcns-to-be-served/
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Re: SANDWELL - Contravention 46 Stopped Where Prohibited (Red
Route), Wolverhampton Road Oldbury
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 5, 2026, 6:03 am
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This is one of those drive-by camera cars. I'll post the video
later as ibb.co is down.
But it just shows a car on the verge and can't of course show
what was going on.
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Re: SANDWELL - Contravention 46 Stopped Where Prohibited (Red
Route), Wolverhampton Road Oldbury
DIR By: uksiuk
Date: August 5, 2026, 6:32 am
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No Problemo,
Here is the map location:
location of contravention
gopher.createaforum.com:70 /forums/ftla/p/11641:85: line too long