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PCN Eternity Fire and Security LTD Parking without clearly
displaying a valid ticket. Mumbles Pier
DIR By: VicMbe
Date: August 4, 2026, 4:50 am
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Good Morning,
Can anyone offer advice on the attached PCN which has been
received after the original request was sent to the lease
company. Would appreciate any thoughts!
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Re: PCN Eternity Fire and Security LTD Parking without clearly
displaying a valid ticket. Mumbles Pier
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: August 4, 2026, 5:03 am
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Did you receive any other documents with the Notice to Hirer?
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Re: PCN Eternity Fire and Security LTD Parking without clearly
displaying a valid ticket. Mumbles Pier
DIR By: VicMbe
Date: August 4, 2026, 6:14 am
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Thanks so much
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Re: PCN Eternity Fire and Security LTD Parking without clearly
displaying a valid ticket. Mumbles Pier
DIR By: jfollows
Date: August 4, 2026, 6:30 am
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Thanks, but the important question above is
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> Did you receive any other documents with the Notice to Hirer?
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Such as
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> (a)a statement signed by or on behalf of the vehicle-hire firm
to the effect that at the material time the vehicle was hired to
a named person under a hire agreement;
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> (b)a copy of the hire agreement; and
>
> (c)a copy of a statement of liability signed by the hirer
under that hire agreement.
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If not, and I bet you didn’t, there’s an appeal as long as the
driver is not identified that the hirer can not be liable
because the PCN does not comply with the requirement of the
Protection of Freedoms Act 2012
(
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) to
transfer liability.
You will find a suitable appeal if you search the forum, by all
means post it here before submitting for confirmation.
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Re: PCN Eternity Fire and Security LTD Parking without clearly
displaying a valid ticket. Mumbles Pier
DIR By: Sander333
Date: August 4, 2026, 2:32 pm
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Just as a matter of interest not withstanding the question of
hirers paperwork was a ticket purchased as it appears that there
is something displayed on the windscreen.This company has a
large number of car parks in the Swansea area. I have yet to
receive any information of how litigious they are at present.
#Post#: 126873--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Eternity Fire and Security LTD Parking without clearly
displaying a valid ticket. Mumbles Pier
DIR By: VicMbe
Date: August 5, 2026, 3:35 am
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Thank you for these.
I did not receive anything else apart from the PCN! I think it
is likely that a ticket was purchased but there is no way of
proving it unfortunatly as the car has been cleaned!
#Post#: 126886--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Eternity Fire and Security LTD Parking without clearly
displaying a valid ticket. Mumbles Pier
DIR By: Sander333
Date: August 5, 2026, 5:42 am
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Then you go for the hire and lack of documentation if that is
the case. The machine there does take both cash and card so if
the parking was paid for by card then this may assist as the
sign does not mention that a pay and display ticket must be
displayed.
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Re: PCN Eternity Fire and Security LTD Parking without clearly
displaying a valid ticket. Mumbles Pier
DIR By: VicMbe
Date: August 5, 2026, 5:47 am
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Does this make a difference if the car is privately owned lease?
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Re: PCN Eternity Fire and Security LTD Parking without clearly
displaying a valid ticket. Mumbles Pier
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: August 5, 2026, 6:36 am
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What do you mean by a "privately owned lease"?
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Re: PCN Eternity Fire and Security LTD Parking without clearly
displaying a valid ticket. Mumbles Pier
DIR By: VicMbe
Date: August 5, 2026, 7:50 am
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Sorry. The car is a lease car on finance from a company for 3
years. Instead of it being hired like as a holiday hire car.
Sorry if that comes across stupid but dont know how else to
explain it!
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