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Euro Car Parks Private Land NTK in post received
DIR By: Mocede28
Date: July 29, 2026, 11:13 am
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Hi all
Driver parked with full intentions of paying, so bizarre the
phone operating system was stuck on Apple logo and wouldn’t
function at all. Driver unable to pay or call or take pics of
the situation.
NTK received in post today as attached.
Please advise.
Thanks
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Re: Euro Car Parks Private Land NTK in post received
DIR By: Sander333
Date: July 29, 2026, 2:28 pm
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Can you post up signage but are you saying for clarification
that the driver tried to pay but the system froze and they did
not try another machine nearby if there was one. If you can
answer this it would give us something to work on.
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Re: Euro Car Parks Private Land NTK in post received
DIR By: Mocede28
Date: July 31, 2026, 8:45 pm
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Not the ECP system, I was referring to drivers phone. When they
got it out of from their pocket it was stuck on the Apple logo.
Driver is now using a new phone.
I don’t have the signage photos, I guess I can go on
google maps and see what’s on there if any at all?
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Re: Euro Car Parks Private Land NTK in post received
DIR By: Mocede28
Date: August 1, 2026, 7:17 am
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Dear Euro Car Parks
Re: Notice To Keeper: NTK number Vehicle Registration: Reg
Number
I am appealing this Notice To Keeper as the Registered Keeper of
the vehicle.
The vehicle was parked at the Cardiff International Pool car
park (Empire Way). For many years, this site operated as a free
council-run facility for gym and pool users. The transition to a
private pay-and-display system managed by Euro Car Parks is a
recent change.
Because of the long-standing history of free council parking,
there is a legal expectation for prominent, highly visible
"changed terms" signage at the entrance and throughout the site
to alert historic users. The current signage is insufficient to
alter the established patterns of legitimate pool visitors, and
no adequate warning or consideration period was provided to the
motorist.
Furthermore, I note that Euro Car Parks has recently been
heavily penalised and investigated by the Competition and
Markets Authority (CMA) specifically regarding unfair practices,
poor signage, and flawed appeals systems.
Please cancel this notice immediately. If you reject this
appeal, please provide the appropriate POPLA (Parking on Private
Land Appeals) code so that I may escalate this matter
independently
Yours faithfully,
How is this template?
Recent transition from council was in April 2026
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Re: Euro Car Parks Private Land NTK in post received
DIR By: jfollows
Date: August 1, 2026, 7:27 am
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HTML https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/Sector%20Code%20Templates/sectorsingleCodeofPracticeVersion1.1130426-2.pdf<br
/>may be useful, 3.4 covers “material changes”.
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Re: Euro Car Parks Private Land NTK in post received
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: August 2, 2026, 1:45 am
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If it is still a Council owned car park then it may not be
relevant land hence no POFA available to the operator.
ECP notices are not POFA complaint anyway.
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Re: Euro Car Parks Private Land NTK in post received
DIR By: Mocede28
Date: August 2, 2026, 5:27 am
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It’s not council owned as it was sold to private buyer in April.
When they ain’t POFA compliant it’s becomes a real long shot as
POPLA will just side with the operator and your only chance is
in court and even that is not guranteed but most likely in your
favour. So really it depends how far you want to take it I
guess.
I have uploaded some photos as you approach roundabout take
first left then first right to enter the car park. I think the
signage is political not so noticeable or clear early notices of
change of land owner and jfollows 3.4 material changes is a good
call I think.
HTML https://ibb.co/8nBbSsLH
HTML https://ibb.co/pBqqF3yY
HTML https://ibb.co/jvW9rPRr
HTML https://ibb.co/b5bVPhvL
HTML https://ibb.co/4gtGwPLn
HTML https://ibb.co/39nBnVQL
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Re: Euro Car Parks Private Land NTK in post received
DIR By: tincombe
Date: August 2, 2026, 8:44 am
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The last of the useful preceding photos scuppers any 'material
changes' argument IMO because it shows Pay on Arrival and 'New
Rules Apply', both directing motorists to look inside the car
park for further instructions. And this is in August. The
contravention was middle of July.
Where's any evidence that these signs were erected shortly
before the contravention and long after April?
IMO, +1 to 'When they ain’t POFA compliant it’s becomes a real
long shot as POPLA will just side with the operator and your
only chance is in court and even that is not guranteed but most
likely in your favour. So really it depends how far you want to
take it I guess.'
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Re: Euro Car Parks Private Land NTK in post received
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: August 3, 2026, 1:16 am
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I've recently had some success at POPLA with non compliant POFA
- its about the way you word the appeal.
If it goes to Court (which it won't because DCB Legal always
discontinue) then I can pretty much guarantee that it can be
defended on the basis of non-compliance.
I have yet to see a Court case where a Judge had not enforced
total compliance in terms of 8(2) or 9(2).
In the meantime I would also check the exact requirements from
the Code of Practice in terms of temp signage - is one sign at
the entrance sufficient?
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Re: Euro Car Parks Private Land NTK in post received
DIR By: Mocede28
Date: August 3, 2026, 7:53 pm
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Thanks all I appreciate the input.
At the moment it’s a win win to begin as a representation
is the first step. After that most likely a rejection and this
is where the dreadful decision would need to be made, if
patience then serves the hope of going all the way to court then
that’s what it will be.
Intercity125 Wouldn’t the temp signage fall under 3.4 of
material changes ?
That’s the problem tincombe we don’t really know but
maybe ecp being on cma’s radar bluff in my template could
help. (Not confident about that to be honest)
Any suggestions for best points in representation ?
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