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Euro Car Parks PCN No valid pay& display or permit
Cornhill, Wolverhampton
DIR By: bobisnotmyname
Date: July 28, 2026, 2:47 pm
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On the 18th July 2026 the driver pulled up near Wolverhampton
station at 'Cornhill', they realised they were in the wrong
place and moved on after stopping for ~10 minutes and 53
seconds. The PCN below was received today from Euro Car Parks.
Any help with an appeal or next steps would be greatly
appreciated. Unfortunately I haven't had chance to head back and
get photos of any signs yet.
<p>Thank you very much.</p><p></p>
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Re: Euro Car Parks PCN No valid pay& display or permit
Cornhill, Wolverhampton
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: July 29, 2026, 2:37 am
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Signage is irrelevant.
This can be defended with an appeal to the operator (made as
keeper) on two clear grounds;
1. The driver entered the car park, examined signage, was unable
to make payment so left - so no contract was formed. Reference
the recent 'open letter' from the CMA to parking operators
regarding 'consideration period'.
2. The notice is not POFA complaint so liability can never be
passed from the unknown driver onto the keeper.
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Re: Euro Car Parks PCN No valid pay& display or permit
Cornhill, Wolverhampton
DIR By: bobisnotmyname
Date: July 29, 2026, 2:41 am
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Hi InterCity125, thanks for you reply, very much appreciate it.
Will appeal on those grounds today.
I've done some research, is this correct? The NTK was issues on
the 23/07, so it is classed as received the day after the second
day after it was posted, which would be Tuesday 28/07. So 28
days after this would be 24/08, not 20/08 as stated in the NTK?
I also not a failure to state the period of parking, just the
time between ANPR detections.
Are these both ok to mention?
Thanks again.
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> Signage is irrelevant.
>
> This can be defended with an appeal to the operator (made as
keeper) on two clear grounds;
>
> 1. The driver entered the car park, examined signage, was
unable to make payment so left - so no contract was formed.
Reference the recent 'open letter' from the CMA to parking
operators regarding 'consideration period'.
>
> 2. The notice is not POFA complaint so liability can never be
passed from the unknown driver onto the keeper.
>
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#Post#: 126148--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro Car Parks PCN No valid pay& display or permit
Cornhill, Wolverhampton
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: July 29, 2026, 4:09 am
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I would not go into the specifics of POFA at this stage.
Focus on the consideration period angle.
Read this document for pointers;
HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6a5784276d6d5c7e2845ca02/open_letter.pdf
Scroll to paragraph 17.
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Re: Euro Car Parks PCN No valid pay& display or permit
Cornhill, Wolverhampton
DIR By: jfollows
Date: July 29, 2026, 4:19 am
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Deemed received 27/7 if issued 23/7,
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> (6) A notice sent by post is to be presumed, unless the
contrary is proved, to have been delivered (and so given for
the purposes of sub-paragraph (4)) on the second working day
after the day on which it is posted; and for this purpose
working day means any day other than a Saturday, Sunday or a
public holiday in England and Wales.
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But 28 days after this is still 24/8.
But best to leave out the nitty-gritty for now.
The ANPR thing is true, but the contrary argument will be that
the "consideration period" and then the "grace period" (in the
latter case only if parking is paid for) are designed around
this.
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Re: Euro Car Parks PCN No valid pay& display or permit
Cornhill, Wolverhampton
DIR By: bobisnotmyname
Date: August 20, 2026, 3:49 pm
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<p>Thanks all for the advice, I made an appeal based on the
consideration time, and referred and linked to the CMA open
letter. Also mentioned that the notice was not POFA compliant,
can link to the appeal if needed.</p></br>
<p>As expected, the appeal was denied and a POPLA code issued.
I've started writing an appeal, would appreciate some advice on
the main points to press with POPLA. Thanks</p></br>
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