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       Waltham Forest PCN – Code 32T – Coppermill Lane E17 – Advice
       Requested
   DIR By: kali2026
       Date: July 28, 2026, 8:15 am
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       Hi everyone,
       I have received a PCN from Waltham Forest for Contravention Code
       32T at Coppermill Lane E17.
       I have watched the CCTV video. I can clearly see the “TURN LEFT”
       road marking, but I cannot identify any visible blue mandatory
       left-turn sign from my approach. The CCTV stills also don’t
       appear to show the sign.
       Before I decide whether to pay or appeal, could anyone please
       review my PCN and CCTV and advise whether the signage appears
       compliant? Has anyone successfully challenged a PCN at this
       location on the basis that the mandatory sign was not adequately
       visible?
       Thank you.
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       Re: Waltham Forest PCN – Code 32T – Coppermill Lane E17
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: July 28, 2026, 8:17 am
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       Where is it and the PCN? Website has wrong grounds on it.
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       Re: Waltham Forest PCN – Code 32T – Coppermill Lane E17
   DIR By: kali2026
       Date: July 28, 2026, 8:38 am
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       Hi Incandescent,
       Thank you for looking at my case.
       The alleged contravention occurred at Coppermill Lane E17
       (junction with Blackhorse Road).
       I have now uploaded all four pages of the PCN together with the
       CCTV video and screenshots. (
  HTML https://cloud.gadgetsavings.co.uk/s/KYJzs5gGmDDPJo2
       )
       Could you please explain what you mean by "Website has wrong
       grounds on it"? Are you referring to the council's online
       representations page or to the wording on the PCN itself?
       Many thanks.
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       Re: Waltham Forest PCN – Code 32T – Coppermill Lane E17
   DIR By: kali2026
       Date: July 28, 2026, 8:46 am
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       Just attached PCN and video from CCtV
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       Re: Waltham Forest PCN – Code 32T – Coppermill Lane E17
   DIR By: kali2026
       Date: July 28, 2026, 12:01 pm
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       Respond please
       #Post#: 126083--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Waltham Forest PCN – Code 32T – Coppermill Lane E17 – Advice
       Requested
   DIR By: Anarchist
       Date: July 28, 2026, 1:18 pm
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       --- Quote from: kali2026 link ---
       >
       >
       >
       > I have watched the CCTV video. I can clearly see the “TURN
       LEFT” road marking, but I cannot identify any visible blue
       mandatory left-turn sign from my approach. The CCTV stills also
       don’t appear to show the sign.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Google Maps is out of date, but Apple Maps shows that the
       mandatory left turn sign exists.
       If you want to claim that it isn’t there it might be a good idea
       to go back and have a look.
       #Post#: 126085--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Waltham Forest PCN – Code 32T – Coppermill Lane E17 – Advice
       Requested
   DIR By: kali2026
       Date: July 28, 2026, 1:27 pm
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       My concern is not that Google Maps directed me that way, but
       that from my approach I did not notice a clearly visible
       mandatory blue left-turn sign. I only became aware of the issue
       after receiving the PCN and reviewing the CCTV.
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       Re: Waltham Forest PCN – Code 32T – Coppermill Lane E17 – Advice
       Requested
   DIR By: Anarchist
       Date: July 28, 2026, 1:31 pm
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       --- Quote from: kali2026 link ---
       >
       > My concern is not that Google Maps directed me that way, but
       that from my approach I did not notice a clearly visible
       mandatory blue left-turn sign. I only became aware of the issue
       after receiving the PCN and reviewing the CCTV.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I meant that Google Maps Street View doesn’t show the sign, but
       that Apple Maps Lookaround does show the sign. So it appears
       that the sign exists and that you will need to depend on other
       avenues to appeal.
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       Re: Waltham Forest PCN – Code 32T – Coppermill Lane E17 – Advice
       Requested
   DIR By: kali2026
       Date: July 28, 2026, 1:40 pm
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       Thanks. I can see that Apple Maps Look Around appears to show a
       sign, so I am not going to argue that the sign definitely was
       not there. My point is that it was not clearly visible from the
       driver’s approach in the CCTV footage. I am now looking at other
       potential grounds of appeal and would welcome any advice on the
       strongest point in this PCN.
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