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       #Post#: 125941--------------------------------------------------
       Parked in a red route loading only bay - Ilford.
   DIR By: zeezee
       Date: July 27, 2026, 4:04 pm
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       Hi - need some help /advice please.
       I parked in a loading-only bay in a red route for around 5 mins
       whilst my wife went to get some bread & milk from Tesco on
       Cranbrook Rd.
       Am I bang to rights here?
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       This is where I parked:
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       #Post#: 125958--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked in a red route loading only bay - Ilford.
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: July 27, 2026, 6:45 pm
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       Sign tells you it is a 'Goods Vehicles Only' loading bay. Did
       you not bother reading the sign, or did you just chance your arm
       no CEO would come along ? You need to be aware that Red Routes
       can be enforced by CCTV as in your case.
       I see no robust appeal argument to take to London Tribunals (LT)
       for the actual contravention, which seems to be made out. I say
       LT, because the council will inevitably reject any reps you
       submit.
       There may, however, be a technical appeal argument based on
       Redbridge mismanagement of the enforcement process, so wait a
       bit to see what might be suggested. Appeals of this nature
       inevitably have to end up at LT as the council will reject them.
       #Post#: 126982--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked in a red route loading only bay - Ilford.
   DIR By: zeezee
       Date: August 5, 2026, 6:48 pm
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       not had a response from anyone else. Is there any ground for me
       to at least put an appeal here?
       #Post#: 126983--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked in a red route loading only bay - Ilford.
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: August 5, 2026, 7:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: zeezee link ---
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       > not had a response from anyone else. Is there any ground for
       me to at least put an appeal here?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm afraid I see no robust appeal argument.
       #Post#: 126990--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked in a red route loading only bay - Ilford.
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: August 6, 2026, 2:17 am
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       PCN issued 23 July therefore deemed served 27th. You have until
       9 Aug. to pay the discount.
       I cannot comment on the timetable for making representations
       because you've not posted the whole PCN. Pl post the other pages
       so we can check for compliance.
       #Post#: 127015--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked in a red route loading only bay - Ilford.
   DIR By: zeezee
       Date: August 6, 2026, 6:04 am
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       Apologies - here is the full PCN...
       I didn't mention in the op that I had my disabled mother with
       me, who needed the milk and bread, so I had to park nearer the
       store, but I didn't think that was relevant & they almost prob
       wouldn't take that as a mitigated circumstance...
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       #Post#: 127059--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked in a red route loading only bay - Ilford.
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: August 6, 2026, 10:42 am
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       Thanks.
       The PCN seems compliant but conflicts with their website as
       regards what constitutes the 28-day period. Hippocrates might be
       able to assist here.
       Having looked at the video, it looks a plain and simple drop-off
       of 2 passengers whose gestures afterwards and the subsequent
       manoeuvring of the vehicle(cut short in the video) suggest you
       were about to drive off.
       I cannot see anything in your favour as regards the
       contravention.
       #Post#: 127064--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked in a red route loading only bay - Ilford.
   DIR By: zeezee
       Date: August 6, 2026, 11:17 am
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       Appreciate the response. Thank you.
       I'll wait for more responses, but an appeal looks weak.
       #Post#: 127066--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked in a red route loading only bay - Ilford.
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: August 6, 2026, 11:23 am
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       Just to add, although Case Law does not absolutely exclude
       shopping from the meaning of 'loading', this could apply only
       exceptional circumstances, albeit undefined if I remember the
       judgment correctly.
       I think 7(g) applies:
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       #Post#: 127135--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked in a red route loading only bay - Ilford.
   DIR By: zeezee
       Date: August 7, 2026, 6:22 am
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       So therefore I would build the appeal around three points:
       1. The authority has not disclosed complete CCTV evidence.
       2. The council must properly consider your request for discretio
       3. If the authority rejects your representations, require it to
       explain why it considers the disclosed evidence sufficient and
       how it considered your exceptional circumstances ?
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