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#Post#: 125910--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN received from Havering council for parking adjacent to
dropped footway.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: July 27, 2026, 11:02 am
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Indeed looks like wrong location.
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> [member=2249]stamfordman[/member], does the PCN not say that
the discount would not be re-offered in the event of making a
challenge.
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#Post#: 125915--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN received from Havering council for parking adjacent to
dropped footway.
DIR By: Sonu rocks
Date: July 27, 2026, 11:28 am
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So, just on the basis of the wrong location the PCN is invalid?
If so, what should be the content of the PCN?
#Post#: 125931--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN received from Havering council for parking adjacent to
dropped footway.
DIR By: Grant Urismo
Date: July 27, 2026, 2:21 pm
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The PCN has to tell you exactly what you are accused of. This
one tells you that you are accused of parking in a special
enforcement area next to adjacent to a dropped footway at 09:59
on the 26/07/26 in Corbets Tay Road, Upminster.
To fight the PCN you need to prove that you were not parked in a
special enforcement area next to adjacent to a dropped footway
at 09:59 on the 26/07/26 in Corbets Tay Road, Upminster.
You can easily prove this, as the Council photos show your car
was in Springfield Gardens, Upminster at the time. The law
doesn't allow the Council to amend the location, or write a new
PCN, they only get one attempt to get it right.
If the PCN had specified Springfield Gardens and therefore
matched the pictures, you'd have more of a battle on your hands,
but getting the location wrong is fatal to the Council's case.
You may need to go all the way to the Adjudicator, but if you
follow the process properly, you'll win this one.
#Post#: 125996--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN received from Havering council for parking adjacent to
dropped footway.
DIR By: Sonu rocks
Date: July 28, 2026, 5:38 am
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Please help in writing an appeal legally.
#Post#: 126004--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN received from Havering council for parking adjacent to
dropped footway.
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: July 28, 2026, 6:44 am
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See what others say, otherwise try this:
Yr Address
Date
PCN number 1234 Reg Mark 1234
Dear Council,
I have received the above PCN alleging that at 9:59 on the
26/07/26 in Corbets Tay Road, Upminster parking in a special
enforcement area next to a dropped footway .
As can be clearly seen from your own photographs, at that time
the vehicle [reg mark 1234] was parked in Springfield Gardens,
Upminster.
As youu will, no doubt, be aware, wrong location invalidates a
PCN, and I look forward to receiving cancellation of this PCN at
your earliest convenience.
Yours faithfully,
Sonu Rocks
#Post#: 126036--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN received from Havering council for parking adjacent to
dropped footway.
DIR By: Sonu rocks
Date: July 28, 2026, 9:00 am
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Thanks.
Any other legal code breached under any act?
#Post#: 126172--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN received from Havering council for parking adjacent to
dropped footway.
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: July 29, 2026, 6:36 am
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At this stage (challenge) shorter is better - the parking dept.
is supposed to know the law, without us having to spoonfeed it
with chapter and verse!
#Post#: 126177--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN received from Havering council for parking adjacent to
dropped footway.
DIR By: tincombe
Date: July 29, 2026, 7:38 am
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Wait until you get their response, but I don't like 'any
challenge made is against the full charge and the 14 day
discount will not be offered' because in law it is incorrect as
regards a blanket statement.
The 14-day discount is available BY LAW until the period of 14
days beginning on the date of contravention has elapsed. Their
statement is misleading.
The Secretary of State's view as expressed in their Statutory
Guidance is that:
It is in the interests of the authority and the vehicle owner to
resolve any dispute at the earliest possible stage.
Enforcement authorities should give proper consideration and
respond to these challenges with care and attention and in a
timely manner
The Secretary of State suggests that authorities should respond
within 14 days. Enforcement authorities should also have
suitably trained staff with the appropriate authority to deal
with these challenges.
Just because the council cannot process reps in good time does
not mean that the motorist should suffer.
I'm certain that this statement was not approved by Members when
they considered their policy of not re-offering the discount,
this is an officer add-on included without consultation with
legal officers.
Rant over!
#Post#: 126180--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN received from Havering council for parking adjacent to
dropped footway.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: July 29, 2026, 7:59 am
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This is their rationale for removing the disciunt on challenge.
HTML https://consultation.havering.gov.uk/parking/parking-proposal-appeals/
The purpose of penalty charges is to dissuade motorists from
breaking parking and moving traffic restrictions. Ideally, there
would be 100% compliance, with no PCNs issued, however, in
general, the Council issues around 15,000 PCNs every month.
A PCN is reduced in price by 50% if it is paid within 14 days of
issue and our proposals have no plans to change this discount.
However, the current regime in Havering also means that if a
challenge or appeal to a PCN is received within the 14 day
discount period, and is unsuccessful (ie that the Council has
considered there are no grounds for cancellation), the 50%
discount is re-offered for a further 14 days.
There is data to suggest that reoffering the discount has led to
a very high number of speculative challenges. About 30% of all
PCNs are challenged / appealed against, whereas only about 10%
of all PCNs are cancelled. To remove the re-offered discount
would significantly reduce challenges and the cost of
administration in the back office processing team and mean only
those with genuine reasons for challenge, would challenge.
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