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Purley- TFL-PCN 46: Stopped where prohibited, O/S 9-11 Russell
parade, Purley,
DIR By: vjs
Date: July 24, 2026, 1:47 pm
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Received the PCN attached for stopping at a red route. The
location mentioned is a EV charging point that is a 1 single
bay). I pulled in to the bay for less than 45 seconds ( 3
pictures shared by TFL are within 35 seconds of each other) to
let a passenger out without realising this was a EV charging
point only. I didn't notice the bay turning in as It is very
much immediate as you make a turn, and I need to focus on
oncoming traffic from other direction. There is very little
time to notice given the tree trunk and foliage of the tree and
traffic coming from other direction to merge. Better pictures
from the TFL page attached. I moved immediately as I noticed the
bay, but now realise that's not quick enough.
Thank you in advance fo any guidance.
Couple of questions,
1. can I quote the tree trunk, foliage obscuring the board and
lack of clear view due to insufficient approach time?
2. Should this have been PCN code 14 and not 46? Is this an
angle to challenge?
Appreciate any advise . If I'm at fault then I'm happy to
swallow the pride and pay.
Link to PCN-
HTML https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/5RJznMV_xl.jpg
Picture from TFL-
HTML https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/DkaurUv_xl.jpg
Link to Maps-
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/sXES7xHzeppCguySA
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Re: Purley- TFL-PCN 46: Stopped where prohibited, O/S 9-11
Russell parade, Purley,
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 24, 2026, 5:03 pm
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DId you actually let the passenger out ? If you didn't you could
claim that you stopped with the intention to park, but read the
sign and drove straight off.
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Re: Purley- TFL-PCN 46: Stopped where prohibited, O/S 9-11
Russell parade, Purley,
DIR By: vjs
Date: July 24, 2026, 5:14 pm
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Yes, it was less than 45 seconds and as soon as I stopped the
passenger got off... they didn't really wait for my permission
it anything.
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Re: Purley- TFL-PCN 46: Stopped where prohibited, O/S 9-11
Russell parade, Purley,
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 24, 2026, 5:27 pm
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Well, sorry to say it, but I think you don't have a lot to go on
if you want to stand your ground. TfL will refuse your reps,
because they just want your money, there is no traffic
management benefit in this PCN whatsoever, so to test the
matter, you'd have to take them to London Tribunals with the
full PCN penalty in play. Of course, if you win you pay nothing.
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Re: Purley- TFL-PCN 46: Stopped where prohibited, O/S 9-11
Russell parade, Purley,
DIR By: vjs
Date: July 24, 2026, 5:31 pm
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Understood. Would the PCN code actually be 46? I also realise
they have 14 for specifically the EV charger parking.
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Re: Purley- TFL-PCN 46: Stopped where prohibited, O/S 9-11
Russell parade, Purley,
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 24, 2026, 6:42 pm
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--- Quote from: vjs link ---
>
> Understood. Would the PCN code actually be 46? I also realise
they have 14 for specifically the EV charger parking.
>
--- End Quote ---
Well, it might be wrong, but as I said, you'll have to test that
at London Tribunals. Would you win ? I'm not sure
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Re: Purley- TFL-PCN 46: Stopped where prohibited, O/S 9-11
Russell parade, Purley,
DIR By: vjs
Date: July 26, 2026, 4:09 pm
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Thank you. Is there an angle for appeal at all here? 80 pounds
for a 30 second stop seems excessive. The charging point marking
is also at a major merging point between 3 different roads, so
one has to always watch the incoming traffic which makes it
almost impossible for anyone to read a sign looking at the
opposite side to the incoming traffic.
Appreciate if there are any other views here.
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Re: Purley- TFL-PCN 46: Stopped where prohibited, O/S 9-11
Russell parade, Purley,
DIR By: tincombe
Date: July 26, 2026, 4:15 pm
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I suggest you get hold of the video recording from TfL,
instructions in the PCN.
This would not only stop the enforcement clock, it would enable
you and us to see the evidence which would form their case at
adjudication.
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Re: Purley- TFL-PCN 46: Stopped where prohibited, O/S 9-11
Russell parade, Purley,
DIR By: vjs
Date: July 26, 2026, 4:21 pm
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Thank you. I will try to get hold of the Video.
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Re: Purley- TFL-PCN 46: Stopped where prohibited, O/S 9-11
Russell parade, Purley,
DIR By: vjs
Date: August 16, 2026, 10:18 am
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Finally received the DVD and here's the video. Please suggest if
I have any appeal angles from this.
Summary- 30-40 second stop, coming in with limited visibility of
the board showing restriction. Joining road at a point of merge
with busy traffic.
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Kxc4g4e1Sneksz30dC-xDUxa7RzkhTyF/view?usp=drivesdk
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Kxc4g4e1Sneksz30dC-xDUxa7RzkhTyF/view?usp=drivesdk

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